W.W. vs Snuffer

[SouthMDShooter]

Well as some of you can see im looking to buy a 3 blade bh for this fall and now im stuck on what to get.

What do you guys prefer a snuffer or WW? what are your experinces with them? pros cons? any input is much appreciated. Thanks
-Curtis

[SouthMDShooter]

oh these will be flinging out of my 53lb longbow

[BigRonHuntAlot]

Well, I havent had any game animals complain a bit after putting a WW through them. They didnt say anything at all when I took them to the truck. I cannot offer any advice on the Snuffer as I have not hunted with them yet.  I do Like the Razorcaps better though. More Durable and easily tuned with the different ferrules. Can get them SHARP too.

Good Luck in your endeavors!

[Bowhunter4life]

Well I'd have a bunch of questions before I could give a sound answer.

53# @ what draw length?  What kind of bow? I know you said longbow, but a Hill style longbow or a R/D hybrid?  There's a difference. What weight arrow are you planning on shooting?  What are you planning on shooting?  Which Snuffer are you planning on shooting?  The heavier they are the wider they are, and the more "umph" it will need to get through the goodies.  

The Woodsman would be the safe choice in my book, and a good one at that, but I would maybe be able to recommend you go with a Snuffer too.  Depending on your answers to the above.  For example sake: there is a big difference in a HH Wesley 53# @ 26" and an ACS-CX 53# @ 30".

[**DONOTDELETE**]

out of my 51(red oak board bow) & 52 (shrew)pound bows Snuffers fly great...

[SouthMDShooter]

Im shooting 53#@ 28 inches out of a northern mist baraga which has a slight R/D deisgn in it.

Im shooting GT 3555 with 150 up front

And i will be shooting deer

[VA Bowbender]

I used Snuffer 125's last season on GT 5575's,
@ 30", from a 54# Pittsley Predator.  I shot a nice 8 pt buck at approx 15 yds.  It should have been a double lunger but I only got about 6-7" penatration.  This season I'm putting 125gr up front plus a 125 Snuffer (250grs).  I would suggest you add more weight on either WW or Snuffer's.

[joe skipp]

Can't go wrong with either head. Snuffer cuts a larger hole, WW with its 3:1 design probably will penetrate a tad better. Personally, I prefer the larger 160 grain Snuffer.

[BigRonHuntAlot]

SHOT PLACEMENT !! ... and a tuned setup.  Nuff Said.  

[J-dog]

Yeah shoot what flies good for ya, keep it sharp. no experience with either head but 53# should drive it through and through.

J

[Izzy]

Ive had pass throughs on both of the deer I shot with 125 Snuffers.One was a little gal but it hit spine from a tree stand and still poked right through.The other was a clear pass through, high lung in, behind the shoulder out.She was about 140 lb's.I leave them with very fine serrations and they are nasty.

[robtattoo]

My only experiences with either were in Texas last year.

Round 1) 125gn Snuffer vs. Goat = snuffer bounced off from a shoulder hit.

Round 2) 125gn WW vs. Goat = Really dead goat. Complete passthrough including 1 severed rib & a shattered scapula.

To be fair to the Snuffer, I don't think I really had it sharpened as well as it should've been, but I've kinda mis-trusted them since. I know others swear by them, but my confidence in 'em took a knock that I'm struggling to shake.

[WidowEater]

the only thing i can say is get the Snuffer SS.  The quality control on these is much better than either the regular snuffer or the ww.  Other than that I can say there is no significant difference between them from the animals and targets ive hit them with.

[HARL]

My snuffers always passed through the animals and could be used again.When I shot the woodsman the tip curled.I gave the rest of the woodsman away.

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Well, I've used both, but only from heavy bows. With the WW I've collected an experience that could be used to criticise them, but I've also collected two great experiences with which to praise them. With Snuffers, I had four pass-throughs on four goats. Obviously I don't have anything like a definitive study on them. They obviously work fairly well (just look at all the game taken with both). Something that bothers me, though, is the advertising nonsense that 3Rivers (and I love 3Rivers; they provide excellent service to Australia) uses to promote the WW, saying that no big game animal is safe from them, that they have more penetrating power than any other broadhead, etc. Anyone who tries to use a WW on a water buffalo or elephant is running huge risks, going against common sense, and needs to give himself an uppercut. Other game, no worries (with enough bow and arrow). I have a heap of heavies just freshly made-up wearing WWs. But they are not for buffalo.

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Harl, if you snip a mm off the tip with side cutters, it strengthens it greatly.

[Morning Star]

For me, my 53lb @ 27" Widows with a 615gr carbons = 36lbs of KE.

Snuffer 160's had penetration issues, BUT dead deer none the less. Just couldn't push them out the opposite chest wall.

Woodsman have serious problems with sticking in the dirt after they blow through the chest. It's annoying having to clean the dirt out of the vents.  They also have problems with all that blood on the ground. A disturbing crime scene.        

My setup and experiences with 20+ woodsman killed deer......woodsman is the best head for me.

I've had a couple tip curls, but not sure if it was from the deer or they hit a rock underground.      
Everyone has there own experiences, those are mine.  Lately, I do file the tip slightly. Doesn't hurt a thing and with all the complaints out there about factory angle tip problems...why not.

[Zbone]

Been shooting Woodsmans since they came out and they performed great, although I clip the tips, there’s a bunch of posts about that.

My woodsman supply was getting low, and with all the recent hoopla of extreme FOC, decided to try the 160gr Snuffers this year and recently purchase a couple dozen. They fly good but haven’t shot anything with them yet. This season, hope to see one of the colossal blood trails everyone talks about…8^)

[SouthMDShooter]

Ive heard the WW are hard to sharpen is this true?

[tradtusker]

they are a bit tricky to sharpen mate but only because they have not payed close attention in the grinding process and there is a slight low spot about 2/3 of the way up the head so it needs a bit of work to get them perfectly flat, once they are though you can get them very sharp easily.
lots of threads on here about sharpening the WW

they are a good head!