power bond / insert failure with gold tips

[Irish]

I have gone to JB weld also

[Doc Nock]

L.E.
I can't testify it's foolproof, but I worked locally at Kinsey Outdoors (retail subsidiary of Kinsey Archery)and they use a brownish hot melt stick for all carbon inserts!

We had that mniserable backstop made of masonite..which hold to a shaft like cement...and none ever pulled out.

I think it might be Bohning hot melt, but they buy in bulk up at the Archery Distribution center and repackage in individual stick packs...so I don't know for sure

I've used it for 3 years personally and never had one pull out of a backstop. Before, I used any 5 min 2 part epoxy...and then tried some new stuff. It won't come out! I used to be able to heat the field tip, twist it and pull out the insert and dip the shaft in cool water...then rough up inside shaft and re-use cleaned up insert... but that stuff I got never would let go...so I now use hot melt exclusively for inserts. I've not tried it with the adapters for glue on BH's...but will soon!

Oh, btw, they NEVER clean the shaft after cutting...just tap and use the hot melt! Amazing!

[L. E. Carroll]

Thanks alot Dave you have put my mind at ease on using hot melt with GT's.
Gene

[Brent Hill]

Now that I'm going to change glues, is their a good way to pull inserts out of arrows and broadheads off inserts when they are glued on with powerbond ?  I'm cheap and love my limited supply of razorheads.  Thanks bh

[Doc Nock]

Final note, L.E.

It's a brownish color...not your clear or white stuff at the craft store they're using... I buy it off their rack when I get up there... seems a bit stronger than the clear stuff they use outa a gun...

[fyrfyter43]

Dave, it's probably Ferr-L-Tite that you're talking about.

I was just out shooting on my improvised range (my Rinehart 18-1 set out on the railroad tracks behind my house), and I had 2 more inserts come out that were glued in with Powerbond. Yeah, I was having a pretty bad night! Of course that stone is pretty hard on anything that hits it, including my shafts. (This "range" is a great way to improve my shooting - or go broke with all the arrows I wreck.)

None of the inserts that I recently glued in with JB Weld have come out.

[Doc Nock]

Eric,

Someone else locally said that to me recently... and I don't "Think" so...

Let me ask you a question: isn't the Ferr-L=-Tite the hard, oval shaped stick?  I've used that for ferrules on fly rods since my grandaddy gave me a rod... If I'm thinking of the right product and name.

Whatever, let me add this... the sticks I'm talking asbout are rubbery, round and look exactly like the craft clear/white hot glue sticks that come with those "guns" you plug in... but it ain't so! They're the same dimension and soft like that... but they're brownish.

I "thought" Ferr-L-Tite was the hard stuff... but won't swear to it so posing as a question!  

[L. E. Carroll]

Thanks Dave the Hot Melt I have and am using is the brownish one so think they will be fine. [ not they type crafters use in the hot glue guns]
Gene

[fyrfyter43]

Yes, Ferr-L-Tite is just like you described it...a hard, oval-shaped stick. Amber in color. Definitely not what you're using.