Broadhead adhesives?Hot melt ain't cutting it!

[Eric Krewson]

No George, been using epoxy for years, hot melt takes 2 or 3 seconds to turn loose with a torch, epoxy 5 or 6 seconds. No damage to a broadheads temper.

[Charlie Lamb]

Eric and George,

I like both of you so I won't play favorites. Epoxy sucks!!... Did that help any?
 

[Charlie Lamb]

As with any project involving adhesives, the bond will only be as good as the surface preparation.

When I do mine, I thoroughly degrease with acetone or laquer thinner, rough the surfaces to be bonded, then degrease again to remove any dust or grit.

(burning out residue in a ferrule can't be done... it just leaves burnt residue)

I like to use a combination of three or four sticks of brown hobby glue with one stick of Ferrultite... you get the improved tack of the Ferrultite and the shock absorbing traits of the softer hobby glue... and it's frugal.

I heat only the point being careful not to get blades on broadheads too hot. An old timer told me when I was young that heating only the point allows it to cool and shrink down aroung the taper.... not sure how valid that theory is, but it has worked for dang near 50 years.

Rotate to spread the glue evenly and quench in cold water.

Like I said, it works for me. Epoxy has it's advocates and that's fine with me.

[JEFF B]

thanks Eric i new i was on to a good thing with the epoxy like i said i dont have a problem with it any way its up to the individual as to what they  use good luck with what ever ya  use. may  the force be with you young string walker.      

[Eric Krewson]

One thing I have done a few time is shoot a new hot melt glued on broadhead into my McKenzie mountain goat kill section and have it turn loose. One sure has to dig out a large hole to retrieve it, you certainly can't leave it in there and risk hitting it with another arrow.

Epoxy doesn't suck in my opinion as I haven't had to dig a single broadhead out of my targets since I started using it.

Before I began using epoxy(I only shoot wood arrows)I degreased points, used every type of hot melt, cut threads inside my points, did everything to try to not loose a point. None of these things worked 100% of the time. I tried 5 min epoxy about 4 years ago and have had 100% of my points stay on no matter where I shoot them.

I didn't have any problems with hot melt when I shot aluminum. Of course this was BC (before carbon) so I don't have any experience to relate to its compatibility with this material..My statements apply only to my experiences after I switched to wood arrows exclusively.

[snag]

I shot a 3D tournament today. I shot some CE arrows with 100gr. brass inserts that I had glued in with Titebond...2 failed. I had taken sandpaper and roughed up the inside of the shafts and then used alcohol to clean them out with befor gluing....?

[TSHOOTER]

Ethan

I have used hot melt and epoxy.  Never completely satisfied until I started shooting Magnus Stingers.  Problem solved.

[Eric Krewson]

Titebond is a wood to wood glue, never heard of it being used on non wood surfaces.

[snag]

Sorry, it wasn't titebond...it was an epoxy that was recommended by the place that I bought the inserts.

[New to Traditional]

A lot of helpful info. guys.I sure do appreciate it.This will be my first year going completely traditional and also my first year using traditional solid one-piece broadheads.So I'm having to learn a few more basics.


Thanks,
Ethan

[Pete W]

We were at a shoot this weekend and my wife pulled out a field point stuck on her arrow that was lost in the target..You guessed it, it had been glued in with a hot melt.

The shooter that lost it probably was not to concerned as it only cost him a few cents to replace it.
 There were open class shooters at this event shooting $25.00 arrows. It would have been very costly for them to have hit this lost point.


I stoped using melt glues after trying every type I could find, and never having sucess in retaining points in hard targets. Epoxy holds much better,and it will be apreciated by the guy behind you .

There is a range in Calgary that does not allow wood arrows any more because of all the lost points in their backstop and the damage they caused to the other shooters arrows.

Lost points is a real issue to others shooting at the targets after you leave. They spend lots of hard earned cash for often very expensive arrows and don't need to have their equipment destroyed so we can save pennies a shaft.

If you insist on using hot melts stick to your personal targets. The guy behind you will thank you.