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Offline benny

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Footing a carbon
« on: February 22, 2007, 07:39:00 PM »
What size aluminum shaft to fit a black st axis 400?

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Offline bjk

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 07:44:00 PM »
2020 is the best choice...2020's are super tough on their own....will make the Axis damn near indestructable.


"Foot" the first 2 inches, and the inch at the nock.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 08:51:00 PM »
What BJK said.....
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 08:52:00 PM »
So what one fits the carbonwoods? Shawn
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2007, 08:55:00 PM »
Ya might need 21XX...I can check wehn I get home from work...in about 3 hrs...you'll likely be up, though...  ;)

What Scotty said, really...his recipe...works perfect.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2007, 10:48:00 PM »
BJK is correct.

In case you go to the 400 Woodgrain Bemans you will need 2018.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2007, 10:28:00 AM »
Thanks for the info guys. I have footed 500 st axis with 1916, only the front. Why do you foot at the nock?

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Offline Steve O

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 10:41:00 AM »
Never heard of anyone footing the nock end.
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Offline no

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2007, 03:38:00 PM »
Why foot the carbons, what does it do? Mike
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2007, 04:39:00 PM »
I used 2112 to do my carbon express shafts.I did the nock end as we see them split there also. Carbon express sells "collars" for their shafts nock end. I used old shaft as I am cheap.
I guess it is the way the shaft impacts the hard object(rocks, stakes, etc.) that determine how the shaft will split and which end. I have been told that keeping them in target keeps them from splitting. Guess I will keep footing them then.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2007, 04:59:00 PM »
While on the subject, what size for axis 340, the same?
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2007, 08:12:00 PM »
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Why foot the carbons, what does it do? Mike
It protects the point end and they last longer.

I had shot one dozen into targets only and wore the surface over the first few inches of the shafts.  Some of my shafts mushroomed (got wide just behind the point and failed with strands peeling off) shortly after that -- but that might be due to glue failure.  (Easton changed their adhesive recommendation last year, I think. and my shafts were assembled with the "old" product.)

I cut 2" lengths of aluminum tube, chamfered one end, and glued 'em on.  A good deal.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 01:05:00 PM »
Pics of footing process please?     JW
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2007, 01:28:00 PM »
2020's work on Axis 340's like a charm.

No pics needed, really. It's an easy process. Find the aluminum size shaft that fits snugly over the front of your shaft.  Cut 2" off for the footing.  Lightly rough up the carbon and inside of the footing. Slather epoxy on the shaft and slide the fitting down until the end of the footing is even with the end of the shaft.  Wipe off excess epoxy and let cure.  The footing should butt against the field point or BH.  

You can chamfer the end of the footing if you wish to provide a smooth transition if you draw the footing into the shelf and it catches on the shelf material.

You'll only need about 1/4" of aluminum shaft if you're doing the nock end, but the process is the same.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
What about footing them with the aluminum insert left in the footed portion and then screwing in your point to that? It adds more weight and eliminates the trouble of the transition between the point/bh and carbon shaft and also eliminates the need for a broadhead collar. What do you guys think?
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2007, 01:59:00 PM »
I think you would defeat the purpose.  The area behind the RPS insert would become a hinge point and break.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2007, 02:17:00 PM »
What Scott said...the idea here is to take a VERY durable shaft and make it damn near indestructable...there are three weak points, either end and the area immediately behind the HIT insert.  The two inches in front cover the front and the area behind the HIT.  The bit in the back keep that area from splitting...the shafts are bomb proof.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2007, 02:36:00 PM »
I never thought of doing that before..Anyone know what it takes for gold tip traditional 7595's? I need to make some stumpers anyway.
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2007, 05:29:00 PM »
Any suggestions for Beman ICS Venture 300's?  JW
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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2007, 06:37:00 PM »
What about AD Nitro Stinger Greens?
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