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Author Topic: cutting carbon arrows trouble  (Read 831 times)

Offline T Folts

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cutting carbon arrows trouble
« on: August 05, 2008, 07:22:00 AM »
I bought a mini cut off saw from harbor frieght like the one mentioned here. The saw works great on my heritage arrows but a friend from work bought some Cabela's brand carbon arrows and at the end of the cut the blade would peel a sliver of fiber up the shaft, is it the way these arrows are made compared to my CX arrows or could my blade be getting dull? Any thoughts as why this is happening.

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Offline Cherokee Scout

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 07:26:00 AM »
I cut a lot of carbon shafts. there is a difference in the quality of the carbon. The Heritage cut the cleanest of all.
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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 07:33:00 AM »
Thanks John, is there anything I can do to prevent it?
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Offline BobW

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 07:50:00 AM »
put some masking tape (like the blue painter's tape) around the area you are cutting, and cut through it.
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Offline JRY309

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 08:22:00 AM »
I use a mini cut off saw for my carbons.I mounted it on a board and made an adjustable stop block for repeatable cuts.The stop block I drilled a chamfer in it so I can rotate the shaft as I cut it just like the more expensive saws do.I bring the saw into the shaft and rotate the shaft.This gives me a cleaner and squarer cut then just saw down through it.

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 10:14:00 AM »
Is everyone using the blade that comes with the saw or something else?

On the "professional" saws the blades seem (if memory serves me)to be abrasive vs. the "toothed" blade that comes with the saw.

Comments please.

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Offline Flyrite

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 10:46:00 AM »
The blades I use with the mini-cutoff saw are of the abrasive type, which work much better then the toothed type. They are currently being offered on ****, check it out.
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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 10:49:00 AM »
It seems this site does not like the 4 letter word for the famous auction site. In place of the **** use the word, or search under:
 Abrasive Cut-Off Wheel Arrow Saw Blade Qty 5 Item number: 170247086250
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Offline Paul Mattson

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 11:15:00 AM »
Always use an abrasive wheel on carbon and aluminum shafts.

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 11:26:00 AM »
I don't mind using **** but I would prefer a local source.

I have looked at Home Depot without finding anything.

Other suggestions?

Bob
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Offline frankwright

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 03:35:00 PM »
I had read before that you could use the larger, more locally available abrasive wheels, you just could not use the blade shield.

I do not know this as a fact but I do know you can buy thee and four inch wheels almost anywhere.

Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 04:51:00 PM »
The simplest thing to do is to rotate the shaft so it is  scored all the way around before you actually finish the cut.
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Offline Flyrite

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 05:40:00 PM »
I found this site. Check it out!http://www.abrasives4sale.com/2to4.htm
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Offline amar911

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 07:15:00 PM »
Paul at Badger and John at Sipsey,

What arrow saw do you guys use to cut your carbon arrows and which saw would you recommend if it is different than the one you use? I need to get a saw and want to buy a quality product, but not the absolute top of the line. I know there are models ranging from about $30 to about $700. I don't mind spending in the $200 or so range, but I really do not want to go a lot higher. I have been thinking about the Easton or the Apple in the $200+ range, but if a cheaper saw works just as well and is as durable, then there is no reason to waste my money.

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Offline wihill

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 07:47:00 PM »
Harbor Freight has the 3" 3/8's arbor "metal cutoff wheels" in a five pack just below the replacement toothed blades.  You will need to remove the blade guard to use them, I mounted my cutoff saw on a piece of unistrut with a movable stopblock end drilled out for a knocked arrow.  On the saw itself I made a shelf with a metal guard to protect my fingers, and replaced the plastic blade stop underneath with a through bolt (so I can accurately control the full cut depth from the saw, helpful with different sized carbon arrows so I don't get too much wobble when spinning the arrow into the blade).

Works very well, but I highly recommend using a G5 ASD after the cut to make sure everything's square.
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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 08:56:00 PM »
Hey Chris, think you can post a picture of your rig?
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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 05:33:00 AM »
Hey Allen,
I know John and Paul will chime in too, but I make arrows for a living too.  I chose an Apple saw for cutting all of my arrows.  Don't know the exact model, but the one that 3R carries.  I use it a considerable amount and it has held up well, accurate stop, always cuts square and easy blade change.  I stopped using the Apple abrasive blades however.  It was getting to the point that after two dozen aluminums they would be gone.  Started using a black and decker abrasive cutting wheel that my local Harbor Freight store has.  Cost 69 cents each.  I can cut between 4 and 5 hundred aluminum shafts on a disk and they hold up fine. dino
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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 10:15:00 AM »
I use the the Apple Pro saw.  I am not sure who makes the wheels, I just order from my supply house.  They seem to last forever.

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »
Thanks for the information on the cutting saw.

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Re: cutting carbon arrows trouble
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 07:33:00 PM »
I'll be happy to post a pic once I get back home.  I'm out traveling at the moment, and won't be back in until Fri.    :thumbsup:
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