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Author Topic: Mississippi hog hunt  (Read 1558 times)

Online Magnum in Ms

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2008, 10:03:00 AM »
Great River Road Park is listed as closed due to flooding on MDWFP web page.

  Great River Road
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Offline RonD

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2008, 10:25:00 AM »
Magnum, it is my understanding that the park is open again since the high water receded. By October the park should be back to a normal operation. However, I will double check just to be sure. If you would like to attend that would be great. Let me know if you do and what your vote is on the questions I raised in my earlier posts.

Offline FlyFixer

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2008, 11:24:00 AM »
RonD, I could probably make it for a three day weekend in October.

Offline Don Stokes

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008, 11:30:00 AM »
There're casinos about an hour's drive north, for those who don't want to rough it.   :)    

Ron, you are being very thorough. I suspect that a weekend will be the best time for those of us who have jobs that require our attention during the week. Later in the season would probably be better relative to pressure from deer hunters. Also, cooler weather would be better relative to care of the meat.

Having said that, I'm ready now! I hope someone comes through with some private land so we don't have to wait.
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Offline RonD

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2008, 11:34:00 AM »
Ok Flyfixer, I recorded your vote for 3 days on a weekend. Be glad to have you come and hunt.

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2008, 12:14:00 PM »
Ok Don, I recorded your vote and put your name on the list. Whether it will be hotter in October rather than November I don't know, so I record your vote for November and a weekend two day hunt. Thanks Don.
Everyone who plans to attend needs to vote on the number of days to hunt(2 or three), weekdays or weekend, and October or November. Remember I need to know this so I can place yout name on the list, set a date for the hunt, and coordinate it with the Refuge Manager at Dahomey. If you plan to stay at a motel in Cleveland I recommend you stay at one of the motels north of Hwy 8. I am working on the Great River Road campsite availability and what needs to be done to assure you a reservation at the State Park.

Online Magnum in Ms

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2008, 01:03:00 PM »
I would like to make a 3day weekend hunt. Things have been busy at work lately and will have to check to see if I can get off when the hunt is scheduled .
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Offline Blue Moose

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2008, 01:10:00 PM »
Got room for another MS boy?  ;) .

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2008, 01:39:00 PM »
Blue Moose we have plenty of room for you. What are you votes concerning the number of days to hunt, weekdays or weekend, and Month (October or November)?

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2008, 02:00:00 PM »
Thanks.

I'd vote 2-3 days, weekend, no preference on month. Kudos on putting this thing together.

TM

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2008, 10:04:00 PM »
I will vote for 3 days.  I prefer weekdays, next weekday tied into the weekend, lastly weekends.  Anytime in October or November sounds good to me.  Probably the 2nd half of October would be better than the first half.  But in a nutshell, any combination would suit me...
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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2008, 10:37:00 PM »
Ronny, you arte now on the list and your votes have been recorded.
You guys want to photos of the caliber of hog at Dahomey go to:
 http://www.mdwfp.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=31
Go to the thread Mississippi Hog Hunt at Dahomey NWR

Offline LBR

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2008, 10:52:00 PM »
I'm easy--whatever works for the crowd will work for me.

Chad

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2008, 11:41:00 AM »
Just want to keep you posted on where the hunt stands at this point. It is pretty much the consensus that the hunt be held in October. Most of use want to be in the woods deer hunting on opening day and the week after the season opens. So right now we are looking at one of the weekends in the last two weeks of October. I have the motel data collected and post it once I get everything else together. I am still workinig on the campsite information and haven't been able to get the management at the Great River Road State Park on the telephone. The State Parks phone number in Jackson is said to no longer be in service. As soon as I get the campsite information I will post it along with everything else. I think it is important that we have plenty of time before the hunt to establish personal schedules. If there is anyhing I have left out please let me know. So far we have 9 to 10 people listed for the hunt. Thank you for your cooperation in accomplishing these tasks. RonD

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2008, 09:44:00 AM »
I have been working on the plans for the hog hunt at Dahomey NWR most of today and have come to the conclusion that the idea of everybody getting together for a hunt and to meet new people is in general a good idea, but a two or three day hunt may be logistically unrealistic.  We can still have the hunt if you choose to and I am more than willing to do the legwork and data gathering for you, but I think you need to know the cost factors that will affect the decision to hold such a hunt. For someone coming from out-of-state the cost at a minimum for a two day hunt would be around $427.50 with $141.79 going for a 3-day nonresident hunting license and refuge permit. The least expensive lodging at a local motel was $129.71 for a Friday evening to 8 a.m. on Sunday morning. Now those costs do not include the cost of food, gasoline, and incidentals. Include those in the cost of the hunt and for the out-of-state hunter the total cost would be close, if not more than $600.  For a Mississippi resident the total cost could run as high as $300 plus.  The reason I included local motel lodging in the cost analysis is due to the fact that the Great River Road State Park is closed due to the floodwater earlier this year that damaged their electrical system. I spoke with the State Parks people at the Jackson headquarters yesterday and asked if the repairs to the electrical systems would be done by October 24, and they could only say that it was their hope to have it done by then but could not guarantee that it would be open to camping.  To my way of thinking I could spend that kind of money on something more important, my family, and spend even less by hunting close to home. What I think we need to do if the Tradgang people are serious about holding the hog hunt at Dahomey would be to reduce the hunt to a one-day affair, preferably on a Saturday.  If we did that the cost could be reduced substantially to the purchase of gasoline to and from home for each person attending the hunt, and maybe the cost of a few incidentals.  For out-of-state people the cost would still be high considering the high cost of the nonresident hunting license, but it would be cheaper than the two day hunt plan. Based on the costs outlined above it is each person’s decision as to what they choose to do. It could be reduced to a one-day hunt and whether one comes on Friday and spends the night is entirely their decision. Even if they came on Friday and stay until Sunday before returning home it would still be their decision to make. In such a case I would help them with a continuation of the two-day hunt.  Most of us do not own nor have access to private land to hunt so we look to the public resources for our opportunities.  Lawyers, lobbyists, and legislators have made it almost impossible for private landowners to open up their land for hunting due to the potential for lawsuits and liabilities associated with such practices.  The good old days of asking a farmer for permission to hunt his land are gone and more than likely will never return.  An entire hunting industry has emerged from this lack of opportunity for the non-land owner to hunt and has had a profound impact on us as hunters as well as wildlife in general.

At the present time I do not know how many of the nine people who are on the list to attend the hunt are serious about having such a hunt.  There is really no point in having a hunt if people are not going to follow through with the plan. And of course plans can be difficult to carry out, especially when people feel like they are becoming more work than fun.  The only way I know to determine if people are serious about an activity is by whether or not they show up and experience has taught me that people more often than not do not show up.  So, it’s kind of a frustrating situation that I find myself in when putting this hunt together.  As of today I have not had the opportunity to speak with the Refuge Manager concerning information about the hog population and their movements on the refuge.  Should we seriously decide to hold the hunt we will probably have to find the hogs by finding the fields in which they root, the trails to and from the fields, waterholes, wallows, bedding areas, rubs, and other hog sign. For all I know the refuge management may not keep a census on the hog population nor monitor their movements on the refuge.  If we do hold the hunt I will do my best to get that information from the refuge manager and pass it on to you by the first of October.  It is my opinion, and only my opinion, that we hold the hunt on Saturday, October 25, 2008 and try to be in the field by 8 a.m.  I think most people would like to have the first two weeks of the opening of the season to hunt deer in their usual haunts close to home with family and friends.  For those who will be attending the hunt it is your responsibility to contact the refuge manager and obtain the required hunting permit, his e-mail address is [email protected].

Like I said at the outset, the idea of getting together out of friendship is a good idea, but the organizational complexity of such an activity only complicates the endeavor.  For medical reasons I am unable to draw a bow and will not be able to participate in the hunt itself, however, I would still like to meet the people whose posts I read on the Tradgang forum. SO!  If people still want to have the hunt and reduce it to a one-day affair, or for that matter continue with a two day hunt, give me some of your suggestions in making this event really happen and be a success based on what we originally set out to accomplish ….simply getting together and having fun?  In effect I am putting the primary decision-making responsibility for the hunt in your hands where it should have been from the very beginning.  We still have a little less than two months to put everything together and finalize it.  What say you lads of the bow?

Ron Dodge (RonD)

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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2008, 08:39:00 AM »
Some things to know about hunting at Dahomey NWR:

Hunter Orange required- 500 square inches unbroken minimum for all hunts.

NO dogs for any reason.

NO 4-wheelers, not even on a trailer.

NO handguns, any time.

Each hunter must obtain a permit, and in addition fill out a "User Information Card" daily.

Everyone who plans to hunt should definitely go to the Dahomey web site  http://www.fws.gov/dahomey/  and read all of the hunting regulations.

Don
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Re: Mississippi hog hunt
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2008, 09:48:00 AM »
Don, all public lands are highly regulated by the state or federal government and for good reason .... the destructiveness of some people and the fact that most systems are multiple use systems requiring rules for safety and environmental protection purposes. The private land owner has trespass laws to the protect the habitat and wildlife on their land. The NWR and WMA have their rules protecting habitat and wildlife under their care. It all balances out. All of the Tradgang members who have signed up for the hunt have been notified by e-mail of the dates, time, lodging availability, and requirements for attending the hunt. If I have missed anyone, please e-mail me and I will put you on the list and send you the information you will need for the hunt.

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