Ashby BH - Alaska Bowhunting Supply

[Molson]

Look Biggie.... I respect you and your vast experience, but fact is... you're dead wrong on this.

My own personal experience and years of study have shown that every shot I should have or could have taken would have been perfect.  I have never missed a shot taken under these conditions!!!!    :D

[b.glass]

I'll pay it atleast once. If it's everything they say it is, it will be worth it to me.

[Biggie Hoffman]

Molson, I know, I know....I've been trying to tell you that you need to shoot more!

Guys like Van and George S. wouldn't pay $30 for a new truck. I think George saves eggshells. BUt quality takes time and time = money. Like the Silverflames, each one is HANDSHARPENED. What would YOU charge?

Is such a head worth the extra money? Will a $30 head kill a critter quicker and better than a $2 Bodkin. IMO...NOPE! For me, I'm amazed at what a really sharp head can do and I can't get a head as sharp as a Silverflame or a Muzzy Phantom right out of the package. So, the viable alternative for me is to pay someone else to do it for me. Doesn't sound good to you do-it-yourselfers, but I hired someone to lay the brick on my house too.

[tippit]

Dr Ed,  
Your work is turely an inspiration!  It must be a nice feeling to see all that coming out for the bowhunter.  I know I have certainly enjoyed trying to capture your ideas.

As to 300gr on rebar,  Here's my 300gr Asby style head piloted from a selfbow...mighty strong too!  Thanks      the other Doc

 

[Ric O'Shay]

Biggie - I beg to differ with you regarding Van paying $30 for a new truck. He's spend at least that much on bailing wire just to hold the camper on his F150. Not to mention the fenders.  
 

[Bill Turner]

Van:
I'll take you up on your request. Make sure you e-mail me in advance so I can be in San Antonio when you make that purchase. If you like, I'll bring Danny with me to tote the board and dig the hole. Have a great hunting season and keep your old, hand me down heads, sharp.  

[WidowEater]

I hope Dr. Ed reads all of these posts and has a good hearty laugh at what he reads.  

All I know is Im going to trust him first and formost on all this broadhead stuff before anyone else.

[J-dog]

I see people saying where the phantoms are sharp out of the package? The two packs I bought wouldn't shave the hair on my arm, not even close. I like the phantom but it takes a little work to get it sharp.

Or I was jipped? or they new biggie the celebrity was buying them, so they gave him sharp ones! LOL

Later

J

[elkbreath]

J-dog, mine were sharp, for cutting tomatoes in the house, but not SHARP for hunting.

[Biggie Hoffman]

Biggie the celebrity...that's funny right there now :-)

Man I bought (actually won at the banquet) 3 packs of 220 grain, they're sharp enough to shave.
Nothing like the silverflames though.

I just wish I could sharpen stuff. All this would be meaningless :-)
I have to buy two new knives a year....

[Naphtali]

Looking at price from Mr. Schlief's perspective, here's what you have.

1. Initial tooling and development costs. For a small business this is a considerable amount.

2. How many of these broadheads, two- and three-bladed, can Mr. Schlief realistically expect to sell per year? If you're honest, you know that the market for HEAVY broadheads is small. Yet he must earn his costs in #1 -- remembering the small size of his business.

3. Market analysis: If Mr. Schlief were to lower his price 50 percent, would he sell more than twice as many blades as he projects he will sell each year? Were he to do so, would this sales figure be reached every year? What about a price 30 percent of what it is now?

From the other way, how many sales would Mr. Schlief lose because of excessive cost were his price to be 25 percent higher?

Until or unless bowhunters migrate from lusting for arrow speed to penetration, the market for HEAVY broadheads will remain miniscule. Larger manufacturers will not sell enough heavy broadheads at attractive prices to warrant a small manufacturer offering "best of breed" broadheads at a semireasonable price, recognizing his market is large enough to warrant its price.

Now, the situation is reversed. Apparently, this is the same situation that occurs with Silver Flame broadheads. And this broadhead, being first to market, has set a price-value floor.

[J-dog]

LOL Biggie, I am not the best sharpener either, maybe it was the difference between the 220s, and the 125s? who knows.

J

[hogdancer]

I guess I don't understand the whole cost thing, if I think something is worth the price I buy it if not I don't, simple ! I don't waste time second guessing what someone is asking. If I can't afford it, that's MY fault not the sellers.

[Biggie Hoffman]

Thomas, quit being so practical.........

[JohnV]

We've said for a long, long time that Biggie was not very sharp...wait a second, are we still talking about broadheads?

[doug77]

I bought the 125 phantoms last year and they were sharp enough to cut butter at best. Never even shot them

doug77

[Biggie Hoffman]

I told ya'll I was sharpening challenged....maybe I just don't know what sharp is!

[James Wrenn]

The phantoms I have bought would easily cut hair.I touch them all up any way because I shoot each one so it is no biggie if they are not razors out of the pack.It is a lot easier to touch up a head that comes pretty sharp that starting from scratch like a lot of trad heads.

[Curveman]

For me it depends on what the product is: I'll overpay for some things, (like two Superbowls!)try to find the best value for others, and only buy some things if they are well undervalued. And ya know, it is all generally independent of how much money I have. I don't like paying for water but I'll buy a $3 Starbucks without a blink. I might not buy a product if I think I am being "taken" even if I can afford it. Again, it depends what it is and sometimes it's dependent on if there is a similar product that works as well in most instances for less money-like a broadhead-something I have no real emotional attachment too unlike what I have with some of my bows. Oh, some products I will let others pay for the "start-up" costs then buy them at their true value when the market is saturated and the price drops.  In fewer words-if it is worth it to me I buy it but not before going through the little (usually) rapid mental gymnastics that I describe!  

[todd smith]

Hey guys,

Here's a link that shows the new Ashby.  It's actually the link for the single bevel Broadhead Pro sharpener, but it does show the Ashby.

http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/Broadhead_Pro_Single-Bevel__P141C17.cfm

Hope that helps.

SOS, nice looking jig!  Looks like getting the Grizzly to 25 degrees just got a lot easier!

todd smith