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Author Topic: Circle the wagons...  (Read 5372 times)

Offline bowfiend

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Circle the wagons...
« on: February 24, 2007, 09:51:00 PM »
I found this to be totally unbelievable and was so frustrated that I had to share it.

My sister is a single mother of a 6 year old boy who is extrememly intersted in outdoors and hunting. The last time he came to visit I took him to the archery shop to shoot a little and introduce him to archery. He loved it, of course, so I bought him a little bow with a couple arrows for Christmas. My sister sends word that he's over the moon and SLEEPS with the bow at night. I figured I did well by him and was looking forward to seeing him again so we could practice.
Now, they live in Portland Oregon so maybe I should have thought about this - he ends up getting removed from his kindegarden class for talking about his bow and how his uncle uses a bow to hunt. My sister told me that she spoke with the principle and he justified the schools action because they have a strict policy regarding weapons.

Are these people crazy? The whole situation infuriates me, especially because I am ultimately the cause. I feel like they are passing judgment on the hunting population - lumping us with criminals in a broad anti-weapons policy.

Plus, the kid is 6 years old! He's excited about an activity he was able to participate in with me, who happens to be the closest thing to a father figure that he has. Man this burns me!

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Offline Steve O

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2007, 09:59:00 PM »
I think I would hire me a scumbag lawyer for my nephew and sue that SOB principal and the whole school system.  Might have to give up a few hunts to cover the cost, but it would sure be worth it   ;)  

Disgusting.

Offline dougers

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2007, 10:01:00 PM »
its a scary world we live in.  unfortunatly, this is the growing climate.  not saying you dont, but take a look at the news on any web news site and i would almost bet there is something along the lines of your experience.  our way of life is threatened everyday by people not understanding what it is we do as well as others who abuse the sport.  a six year old talking about his bow has become, to some, the future problem.  i feel your concern, its so sad.  im in iraq right now and nothing makes me more proud than to serve our nation, but i have to admitt these types of stories lower my motivation ever so slightly.  well hopefully, the school let the little guy come back without a pat down before he entered class.
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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2007, 10:02:00 PM »
So how do they discuss police officers or soldiers?
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Offline ethan

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 10:04:00 PM »
Isn't Oregon on the Left Coast?

Offline Barney

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 10:07:00 PM »
Times are changing. It's sad.   "[dntthnk]"

Offline Bowchef

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 10:12:00 PM »
Your sister should point out the fact that there are schools all over the country that have archery instruction and nationally-sanctioned competitions.   www.nasp.org
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Offline bowfiend

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 10:12:00 PM »
Really. I mean, it's odd for me if I don't see at least one gun on a rack in somebodys truck every day. I'm a redneck but I didn't think I was a yahoo and I can't imagine not being able to talk guns and bows without a threat of persecution.

The worst part is that these folks probably think they are SOOO accepting of cultural diversity. They don't even realize that they are creating a whole new cultural ideal.
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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 10:18:00 PM »
That is very sad.

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Offline dougers

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2007, 10:19:00 PM »
just for the heck of it i checked a local newspaper of my old town.  look what was on the cover page today....  

 http://mariettatimes.com/news/story/new21_224200722704.asp
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Offline kcbrown

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 10:46:00 PM »
Good Greif. They keep this up we are all going to be in trouble. Right on Bowchef!!! originated right here in Bluegrass. My two young nephews called me this week and said they made the team at their School!!!!
She said " did you see that?" He said "Of course!!!" She said " Why did you step in it then?"

Offline ishiwannabe

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2007, 10:54:00 PM »
Huh....freedom of speech unless it is about a weapon? I think you have a right to be alarmed.
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Offline fflintlock

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 11:01:00 PM »
3 words, "the patriot act"
 We did it to ourselves !!

Offline SpikeMaster

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2007, 11:10:00 PM »
This has been going on for longer then the Patriot Act has been law. The patriot act doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a knee jerk reaction to the Columbine tragedy in 1999.

Offline dougers

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2007, 11:21:00 PM »
it seems to me that the media plays a large roll in this.  many take what they see as a true sameple of anyplace in the us. the news has become a competition to see who can put the craziest, most dramatic, and the most dreadful thing on tv. like i posted before and others have afterwards, much of this is based on a lack of knowledge.  and like bowfiend posted at the top, the little guy was lumped into a larger pool.  in the age of liability, there is no room for sound judgement.  i think 100% of the school would accept the kid's talk if they knew better, but to those who dont know any better, a bow is the same as a glock.  after all with all the school shootings, his little bow could do the same....right?  its like a teacher of mine once asked us in class.  is the kid, who forgets his pocket knife in his pocket after cutting bailer twine in the morning to feed the cows, really a problem even though the rules are no knives at school?  its just at a new level
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Offline gregg dudley

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2007, 11:33:00 PM »
As Leopold said, there are dangers associated with being too far removed from the farm.  Schools generally are a mirror of the communities they serve.  I would assume that there is a general lack of knowledge regarding archery in the community and certainly on the part of the teacher and administrator at the school in question.  

One of my PE teachers ran the first 180 students through the NASP program this week.  He was pretty skeptical about the program even after the training.  Now that he has tried it out, he is talking about buying an additional set of equipment so more kids can shoot.  It is a simple matter of exposure and developing a comfort level.
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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2007, 11:37:00 PM »
Good comments regarding the media, dougers.  As for your example of the "accidental" knife on campus, we are starting to see a trend of returning to "common sense" in those cases.  The adoption of "amnesty clasuses" allows students (at least in many of the areas I am familiar with) to turn in a knife that they may have inadvertently brought to campus in cases like you have described..
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Offline fflintlock

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2007, 11:39:00 PM »
Spikemaster,
 Your right, my mistake, I do need to read that further.

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2007, 11:39:00 PM »
So dose this school allow Base Ball bats....
Clubs have been around as long as archery if not longer.
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Offline Treekiller

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2007, 11:44:00 PM »
The Socialist Republic of Oregon thinks it's Californicate.  Problem is it's moving up the west coast like a virus.

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