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Author Topic: Circle the wagons...  (Read 4464 times)

Offline dougers

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2007, 11:45:00 PM »
mike g, dont put anything else in their heads!!
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Offline Jerry Jeffer

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2007, 02:50:00 AM »
My wife is a teacher in second grade. She told me I have to be sure our daughter doesn't talk about hunting at school because any talk of shooting a weapon (bow or gun) can cause a child to be put out of the school. I couldn't believe it! This is crazy!  :mad:    :banghead:
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Offline gregg dudley

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2007, 09:00:00 AM »
The LAW requires due process in all cases where educational privelleges are suspended for a child.  Talking about archery may get you a conversation with the principal in some overly sensitive schools, but if it gets you more than that, you have recourse.  Unfortunately, "Zero tolerance" appears to mean "zero common sense" in some places.
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Offline Abel

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2007, 09:10:00 AM »
What the school did to your nephew was not legal. Hunting is a legal activity, as is archery. You should hire a scumbag lawyer.
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Offline camocowboy

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2007, 09:28:00 AM »
Take an article about Kentucky's successful archery in the schools program and shove it down the pricipals throat. the liberal society is rampant. I tried uploading some video to googles video program the other day. It was rejected because it was about cowboy action shooting. The guns used somehow promoted hate. I feel like a stranger sometimes in America. I grew up with Roy,Gene , Hoppy and the Lone Ranger. I didn't realize they were promoting hate!

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2007, 09:38:00 AM »
The modern litigatous America is responsible for a lot of this. To many children are being raised with fear and shown only evil on the news.
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Offline bayoulongbowman

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2007, 09:57:00 AM »
Let me tell ya grade schools here can play soft ball in school , how wacked is that ...that was one of greatest joys in grade school good old softball games!!! America is asleep...HEAR ME ..we are asleep!
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Offline tamure

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2007, 10:24:00 AM »
That is very sad. This is exactly why can't shake the notion that hunting in America is doomed, unless we can have an about-face in the popular culture opinion of hunting and weapons in general. Of course, I'm preaching to the choir here. It's the city kids who think about nothing except what the best ipod is, who need to be reached.

Thanks for the link to the school archery program. I remember when I was in junior high, I had already been shooting for a while. My school eliminated the archery program the year before I went. I was irate!
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Offline Izzy

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2007, 10:27:00 AM »
Scary huh? I have a 6 yo boy and have had notes sent home abouth him wanting to be a soldier or a cop like dad.It infuriates some staff at the schools or maybe they just feel like heros for averting another Columbine tragedy.Its sad but thats why we need to be active in educating the non hunting public that hunting or recreational shooting ha snothing to do with wanton violence.Good luck with your nephew, dont let them get you down.

Offline Kenn

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2007, 10:41:00 AM »
This is truly turning into a screwball country/world. Yes, these people are crazy.  Unfortunately there are more and more crazies coming into positions of power all the time.

The school had no right to remove him from his class because he merely talked about his bow.  If your sister wants to fight this, she can.  The kids have rights to speak out, and believe or not, can win.

We had a case here about a month ago where a student in school was wearing an anti-abortion tee shirt and passing out anti-abortion literature inside school.  The principal made him stop, took the literature, and sent him home to change his shirt.

Wrong move!!  The parents of the anti-abortion student got a lawyer, and after the smoke cleared, the school had to let the student continue his anti-abortion campaign.  Freedom of speech.  And that's where we are today.

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Offline Hatrick

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2007, 11:07:00 AM »
My wife teaches kindergarten here in Maryland. She is required, by State law, to report to her principal when a child talks about,draws pictures of weapons, or talks about hunting, shooting, etc. As she says, it puts a teacher in a terrible predicament because if the child is victim to, or causes harm to someone later with a weapon, she can be held liable if she did not report it. Also, she cannot ask any probing questions. Report only.

Fortunately, she teaches in a rural farming community with a long hunting heritage. Both she AND her principal understand the population and together they determine whether or not this is an issue to pursue. In seven years of working at the same school using combined common sense between her and her principal thay have called in NO weapons issues although they probably average 8 or more cases of potential child abuse or neglect per year. Makes you wonder where the real issue lies.

Bear in mind my wife is fairly liberal minded, would never shoot a weapon (I've tried many times) and does not particularly like hunting. She DOES respect the law abiding pursuits of others, including her husband!!!
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Offline ckruse

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2007, 11:10:00 AM »
Wow, that's incredibly ignorant. I work as a School Resource Officer in SW Missouri. Unless the child talked about bringing the weapon to school to harm someone, this was done wrong. I have dealt with weapons threats on all levels, from small kids to High School Seniors. The spirit of the law and common sense must apply. I would appeal to the school board and speak to an attorney if necessary. JMHO- CKruse
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Offline RonT

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2007, 11:21:00 AM »
It's nice to live in backwards North Central Ohia.  A few weeks ago I did a ~2 hour talk to a group of 5th and 6th graders in a local parocial school about primitive archery.  I demoed knapping a point, mounting with sinue, and stripping and fletching using Turkey feathers.  One of my sinue backed selfbows was also passed around while I described the process of making it.
No expulsions, no finger pointing, no letters from angry parents.  BUT, I did get a pack of ~30 "thank you" notes from the class and teachers.  There IS hope!
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Offline Rusty in Fla.

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2007, 03:29:00 PM »
I really wouldn't expect much less from a Government school. that's why I've been working 65 hours a week to keep my son in a Private school.

  It sounds like to me his right of free speech has been violated... BY THE GOVERNMENT!!

  I like the scum ball attorney approach myself. I sue the Principal and the school board.


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Offline bentpole

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2007, 04:20:00 PM »
HOW THE HEC DO THEY TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY IN SCHOOLS NOWDAYS?? Sorry for yellin

Offline bentpole

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2007, 04:35:00 PM »
Well it looks like they would never show: Last of the Mohicans,  Patriot, Glory, Gettysburg, Saving Private Ryan ETC ETC ETC in their schools. Probably show a whole lot of Care Bears though.

Offline Arwin

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2007, 04:44:00 PM »
Whats the address of the school? I'd like to write them a letter or two about hunter harrassment!   :banghead:      :mad:   My daughter was harrased by female students last year for showing a picture of her first deer, to the point of her almost giving up hunting. BTW she is 10 and shot it with her compound,instinctivly. I was working, but my wife stormed up there and had a meeting with her principal,teacher and the students involved. She doesn't hunt but pointed out that there are hunter harassment laws. It ended pretty quick.
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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2007, 04:56:00 PM »
I'm with Arwin. Lets send some letters.
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Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »
When I was in school I actually brought my bow and a quiver of broadhead-tipped arrows to class for a speech on bowhunting. That was in Aurora, Illinois, the second largest city in this state…definitely no rural setting. And now, 20-some years later, we’re throwing kindergartners out of class for so much as talking about bows? Sometimes I think a lot of people in my generation are stuck on stupid.

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Re: Circle the wagons...
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »
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