Comments, Suggestions , Experience ?

[MJB]

Well after a month of no shooting do to eye surgery. Went back at it and felt just like riding a bike. I had some shafts swaged (Autumn orange's and some Legacy's.

Mounted a big Ole Magnus 1 on a 2016 and got right down to business. Peeked right after the shot and drooped bow arm    

Arrow hit in the fairly hard dirt with about 3 in of mulch. I pulled the arrow out and the shaft snapped like a stale cracker.

I plan on hunting with the swagwed Autumn orange shafts but a little concerned after hitting the mulch and breaking. Fluke, happens, ?

Your comments , help suggestions are greatly appreciated.

THANK YOU,
Mike>------>


 
 
 

[maxfit]

I am not very experienced,with aluminums, but i had some swaged aluminum Legacys and if you looked at them wrong they broke. Same exact break as yours. They broke in my 3-d target, in the dirt, etc... They stunk! But i am sure i glued the points on wrong or something. lol!

[woodslinger]

I shot swagged shafts for years and found them to be extremely tough. The only shafts I broke were direct hits to rocks or trying to remove them from oak trees!

[Biggie Hoffman]

Are you sure they're swaged and not spin formed? There is a big difference.
The bare aluminum on your broken shaft looks like a spin form.

[MJB]

Biggie,
I don't know the difference.

[Biggie Hoffman]

This is a swaged 2315. You can see it is actually compressed and no bare aluminum is showing.

The spin formed shafts are twisted down and it actually removes some aluminum, weakening the shaft just behind the point.

I don't know who does real swaging anymore since RJ Archery of Montana closed up but the true swage shafts are much, much stronger than the spin formed or even raw shafts with inserts.

[maxfit]

Biggie.
The "swaged aluminiums" i bought off here didnt look like that. They are turned down to bare aluminum?

[Biggie Hoffman]

If you'll look in the end of the shaft, you can see the difference in thickness. The swaged shaft above is a full .15 thick.
If the taper is bare aluminum, you have a spin formed shaft.
I don't think anyone is trying to cheat anyone else, I just think it's all in the mistaken  nomenclature.

[Widowbender]

If the bare aluminmum is showing that mean some of the metal was removed during the turning/swaging process...

David

[MJB]

Biggie Thanks for the pic and the explanation. Much appreciated.
Mike>---->