Author Topic: So... who can foot arrows like these....? (Read 588 times)

Al Kidner · « **on:** September 11, 2008, 02:56:00 PM »

Well I found this pic some time ago and I saved it to my puter. I'm footing up some Ash shafts when I'm home next and I thought I see just who can foot arrows like these babies!

I'd be a happy camper if you let me in on the magic of doing something like this?

Regards,

AK.

BobW · « **Reply #1 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:12:00 PM »

John Scifres · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:12:00 PM »

Think heat and pressure.

Oh yeah, and skill. More than I've got.

BodarkOkie · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:19:00 PM »

Al,

Those were made by Rusty...of Rusty's Feets. He sold the business, but I don't know if he sold that particular knowledge.

Gene

P.S. Those were HIGH dollar arrows.

Lawrenceu · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:23:00 PM »

My, my, my. Beautiful workmanship.

tradwannabe · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2008, 04:28:00 PM »

Al,
do you gain much strength and weight by footing ash arrows??? Just curious cause i've heard that they are heavy and very tough. (i happen to have a bunch of shafts to start building this winter that i got from Mr Forrester in Oz.
Rob

BobW · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2008, 04:40:00 PM »

Strength? Depends on what you are foothing with. But that was all about eye-candy! And man is it a bunch!

TNstickn · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2008, 04:56:00 PM »

Looks like a steam box at work to me. Probably footed'em square, steamed, twisted then shaped.

Thats the coolest footing I have ever seen!!!

Orion · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2008, 04:57:00 PM »

Footing a hardwood doesn't add much strength. That's just adding hardwood to hardwood. The hardwood is already quite strong. Most times, hardwood footings are put on cedar to strengthen the area directly behind the point, and for looks, too, of course.

tradwannabe · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2008, 05:25:00 PM »

so,
Al is footing ash shafts just for looks??? man, i wish i had that kind of time to spare. I got ash so i don't have to foot or add all kinds of weights and reinforcements, just tips and feathers, 470-505 grains bare shaft, add grizzly 190 broadhead and feathers-done.
R

flint kemper · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2008, 08:35:00 PM »

BodarkOkie, is correct they were made by Rusty's Feets. he sold and it is being run by a younger guy. I will see if I still have his contact info. I tried like heck to get just a snippit of info out of Rusty one year at Cloverdale, but no such luck. HA HA . I have heard they might have bee nsteamed though but be prepared for breakage if all is not right. Flint

dino · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2008, 09:12:00 PM »

Yep, that's Rusty work. I don't know what he told Kye of the process when he sold the business to him, but it is WELDWOOD PLASTIC RESIN GLUE Power wood glue and steambending was used to make them like that. The shafts are round before the process I know for sure, but I don't know if the footing was squared or round before the process starts. My guess is that the footing was still squared and then rounded after the twisting was completed. dino

BodarkOkie · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2008, 09:18:00 PM »

Rusty made the spiral footings mainly for presentation arrows. You should see the ones he made putting the splice in the center of the shafts and some on both ends. Beautiful work!!

Flint,
Don't think it was you...(hope not anyway) :( but I was talking to Rusty at his booth once and this fellow came up an asked him how he did the spirals. Rusty, told him that it was a secret that he didn't care to to share with anyone at that time. The guy got mad and walked off after cussing and fuming for a while.

david_lewis93 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2008, 11:13:00 PM »

WOW THEM IS SOME SWEET SHAFTS!!!!!!!

snag · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2008, 11:34:00 PM »

You got to have them spiral to the right if you are righthanded and spiral to the left if you are lefthanded....couldn't help myself....

huntsmanlance · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2008, 02:35:00 AM »

Man that is some sweet work!

I do have a general footing question though...how the heck do you get the shaft and footing perfectly matched together? It would seem that when you sanded them it would cause little dips where the splice is......

elkslayer · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2008, 03:22:00 AM »

I would love to have some of his twisted footed shafts

Al Kidner · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2008, 04:41:00 AM »

Thanks fellas for all the info. Rob, I do have some ash and there very stright and well matched into a lot of two dozen. I've had these in "war stocks" for some time and I think they came from the same place you got yours.

I've also some old Chundoo shafts on the way as well from a mate in Montana who looks after his ausie mate with shafts from time to time. Gotta have mates like that!

These will be my testing shafts for the twist foot if I can sort out the steaming side of things. Naturally a few busted ones will be in order but it's something I want to do and will be mainly for looks as well as strength.

AK.

flint kemper · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2008, 08:32:00 AM »

BodarkOkie, No that was not me. No need for me to cuss someone when they went through the process of learning it and then just give me the secret. He had some nice spliced feathers on them arrows as well. Al when you get some made up please share some pictures of them. Thanks Flint

BodarkOkie · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2008, 08:50:00 AM »

Flint,

Didn't really think it was you. This guy didn't really have a "Trad Ganger" mentality or attitude.
My guess was...about a room temperature IQ!

Rusty never told me...but my guess on the shafts were the use of a "milling" machine.
The footings...I haven't a clue :confused: :confused:


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