Jamie, we had a fair crop on the red oaks this year but they fell pretty early, the beechnuts are still falling and so is hickory these are the areas I'm keying on and seeing deer.
Curt your right on with your analogy of my shooting, I wont try that again, I'm going to look for a flock of turkeys to get Joe a shot opportunity, their kinda scarce around here the past few seasons. Thanks guy's for all your kind words if it wasn't for Trad Gang none of this would be happening, I learned so much from here in the past couple years that otherwise may have taken a decade to learn.