Griffin verses Shrew handle..is there a difference?

[azhunter]

Is there any difference in the Griffin and Shrew handle?  Thanks

[buxntoms]

Nope,  that's because the Shrew design of today is actually John McCullough's design before he went to work for Ron.  Ron still uses John's design and they are very much the same bows even though John has gone back to making his own bows and no longer works for Ron LaClair!  I've shot both the Super Shrew and my Griffin and they are identical as far as I can tell!  Hope this helps!

[myshootinstinks]

No. I've owned several of both, same grip.

[Ron LaClair]

Nope, that's because the Shrew design of today is actually John McCullough's design before he went to work for Ron. Ron still uses John's design and they are very much the same bows even though John has gone back to making his own bows and no longer works for Ron LaClair! I've shot both the Super Shrew and my Griffin and they are identical as far as I can tell! Hope this helps!  

Mike, read "The Shrew story"    http://www.shrewbows.com/super_story.htm#shrewstory    
John was making self bows when I got him to make the Super Shrew that   "I" designed. John is still making his Griffens using my original design. It may be hard to tell from a picture    but the Griffen limb is slightly different than the "current" Super Shrews and also the handle/grip of the Shrew is a slightly more "defined" than Johns Griffen.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I have a McCullough Shrew, and it's a fine bow. I have several current Shrew bows, and they are much nicer.

[mcgroundstalker]

I own one of each. Both are Great Bows! The grips are almost the same.

... mike ...

[Tim Fishell]

I own both and there are some differences in the bows.  The Griffin I have has a bigger throat to the handle and not as defined of a thumb shelf.  The limbs are also much thicker on my Griffin as well so the bow it self is much heavier.  I enjoy both bows but the Shrew has the edge when it comes down to it.

[Ausable]

I'll take John's fit and finish any day. You cannot beat a Griffin.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I disagree. The current Shrews are much better.

[oddan]

The current Shrew Classic Hunter is one of best and smoothest drawing bows I have ever shot. Gets my vote for #1 bow.

[Ausable]

Roger, you must have stock in Shrew bows. Good luck at Shrew Haven. I find it hard to believe you could improve upon John's Griffin, it is perfect.

[Tim Fishell]

Ausable, If you have not had the pleasure to shoot a new style Shrew you owe it to yourself.  I am not nocking Griffins or John's bows in any way as I have one and like it a lot.  But like I said before the Shrews and just fantastic bows and my favorites for sure!!

[KELLEY40]

I have both.
2004 shrew
2008 griffin.
Also had a 2004 griffin.
If the current shrews are much nicer i may have to order one.

[L. E. Carroll]

Have not tried a newer Shrew, but do have a 02 Super Shrew "SP" 58" 55@28 and a 60" Griffin [newer]59@28 this one has Boo lams,curley maple veneer on back, overlays front and back. It puts a 460 grn. 5575GT thru chrono at [3 hots with fingers] 197,198, and 200 fps.

The questin here, is about grips and since I think John made both of these I really do see no differance. Griffin is perhaps a tiny bit thicker in width at throat of grip, [not even sure about that].  I love and shoot both alot and hunt with the Shrew real hard most of the time as it's been camo dipped recently and I love that durable finish

Could not bring myself to cover up the Griffin as it's a real beauty. I think the overall fit and finish along with being a little faster [ but again it's 4# heaver] would go to the Griffin.

Bottom line at my age I'm finding "Life Really Is Short !" buy one of each... They are both great.  I love the feel and weight of the Shrew, it's like carrying  a piece straw weight wise.
Gene

[jacobsladder]

Roger.....what makes the shrew "much" nicer or better than the mccullough? they both are extremely similar well built bows (excellent bowyers) with one carrying a heavier price tag.. i was just curious what makes one nicer than the other as far as design or craftsmanship?...thanks...steve

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Ausable - NO, I don't have stock in Shrew bows. And don't assume I'm speaking well of them because Ron and I are friends. I also bought a Northern Mist bow this year. I think highly of Black Widow bows, Brack's, and many others. When I was managing the vendors for the Compton Rendevoux I was fortunate to meet just about every bowyer out there....and I can only think of two that I wouldn't buy a bow from.  

As far as the McColough built Shrews vs the current ones, It is my opinion that these are better. And it's not a slap at John. I like the grip better, I like the limb design better, I like the finish better. I also like the new models they have come up with....the Li'l Favorite especially.

For those of you who like current Griffin bows, I am absolutely certain that it is an excellent bow, and I would love it as well. My John-built Shrew is an awesome bow, and I hunt with it every year.  

This is starting to sound like a LW thread, so I'm dropping out.

Roger Norris

[jacobsladder]

i second the Li'l favorite...thats a sweety

[myshootinstinks]

I have to admit I don't think I've owned both the Shrew and the Griffen at the very same time, so I haven't made a side by side comparison, but the grips seemed identical to me.  Nor have I owned the newest model Shrew.
   I've bought two bows from Ron as well as several other items. Bought one from John. I've also bought two or three other Shrews or Griffens on the used market.
   Both Ron & John are class "A" to deal with and build some of the nicest bows I've owned.      

[TSP]

Have owned 5 Shrews, 1 Griffin.  The Griffin grip was narrower than all the Shrews...which may have just been a coincidence.  I didn't notice much difference in how they felt and shot, except for the grip size.  For me, I prefer a slightly thicker grip so stayed with the Shrews, still own two.

Griffins and Shrews are both excellent bows and after owning both I wouldn't hesitate to buy one or the other.

[Steelhead]

What Doug said.I have had 5 griffins and 3 shrews and my brother has a few as well.We like em both and I would be happy with either bow no doubt.Johns newest griffin has a few design changes that he tweaked into the bow that differs from some of the older and semi older ones that I have had.

Pick your poisen.Cant go wrong any way you slice it.