I hate: "Big buck down" Lee and Tiffany make me puke, I hate people who always talk bad about someone who can do something they cannot IE; taking a deer from the ground with a stickbow. I've taken a few and I've heard, "Well you just have a good spot" or "If I had enough time to practice I could do it too". Biggie, you seem like a real good guy, but if my 14 year old son shoots any deer with a bow, no matter what it is, I can guarantee you it'll be a trophy as well as an accomplishment. Rob