This was my first year using woodsmans, shot a doe at 22yds, went 45yds and piled up in sight, lot of blood out the entrance hole, arrow stopped in off shoulder. 2nd shot was 10 yards, ground level on a 4pt buck, perfect double loung1 inch behind the shoulder, dead center, pass through, he turned and ran 120yds on pure adrenalin,piled up just over a rise in the field. There was a blood trail Ray Charles could have followed, I watched blood gushing out and splattering on a hard dirt road as he ran down it with my binocs, long splashes of about a foot long, 2 inches wide. My 3rd shot was on a hen tureky, 22yds, between the shoulders, flopped around and rolled over the hill 30 yds and stopped still. Tip was slighty bent from hitting a big rock in front of the hen that stopped the arrow. These heads fly great, and kill great.