thp, Somehow their is a doubt in my believing that, sorry. But it does make a good yarn for the campfire. But your right about them being tough. I actually didn't make that quiver,can't say who did. But got it in a trade with a good guy on this site way last year when the one i was using went south. Has moose mane around it. It's a little short for me, and not really made for my hunting heads, but good for field points. I have no idea on pointers for a plains style, that's out of my department...The one on my avaitar? or how ever you spell it, was made for me by Blackarrow and is now retired, since my snuffers was a little hard on it.