I shoot with elevated rest that came with my Super Necedah. It's just a piece of plastic glued to the shelf. I just made a hybrid longbow where I copied the Super Necedah riser as much as possible. I did, however, make the shelf extra thick so that the distance from my hand to the shelf is the same as the distance from my hand to the rest on the Super. The reason for this is because I've run into shoots where they don't consider the Super N to be "traditional" because I don't shoot off the shelf. Now, I can shoot the longbow and it's virtually the same.