Sorry guys, I don't know either of your friends. But then, I don't live in town and keep to myself. Danny -- If your wife liked Wolf Creek Pass, she'd really love Red Mountain Pass above Box Canyon, between Silverton and Ouray, where the road is narrow two-lane with sheer cliffs above and below, God knows how far down. Especially loveable on stormy winter nights when you're going south, which puts you on the outside lane inches from the drop-off, the road is icy and a semi-trailer comes up the inside lane a bit on your side. But a great place to see bighorn sheep, if you dare take your eyes off the road. dave