Doug, if I could be of some help. That top one is sweet. I know now that I am gonna have to buy another $100 worth of tickets just to get a shot at your knife!! Yup we are getting snow, have about an inch and our supposed to get a couple, so keep dancin'!! Folks, just got another package today from Joe Lorenzen, he has made arrows up for us in the past, one dozen flu-flus and another dozen 70-75 tapered cedars, very, very nice!! Thanks Joe!!! K Halverson also sent a beautiful armguard with a sweet knife attached. Jamie bring the camera or go buy one so we can post pics. of this stuff. It is incredible!! I am now totally pumped, just got the porta potty ready to deliver!! Thanks, BLUE DIAMOND SEPTICS!! This is a great donation!! I have the Centaur all tuned up and may even carry it on Sunday!! Gonna post some raffle instructions tomorrow so be ready, spend lots of money and lets raise a bunch of money for the kids!! OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Shawn