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Offline john gerrard

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Respectable ?
« on: January 09, 2009, 10:53:00 AM »
I was just wondering what kind of speed you would consider respectable out of a 52# Kodiak Mag using 545 grain carbon arrows? I will probably be using this to hunt white tails. I'm not hung up on speed I'm just wondering what would be a good average speed for this combo to hunt with.    Thanks John

ps I will be using either a 2 blade or a Woodsman.

Offline yamapup

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 10:57:00 AM »
Your draw length is important!

Offline john gerrard

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 01:05:00 PM »
Sorry about that. I really screwed up. First of all the bows pulls 42# at my draw of 27"

Offline Bear Heart

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 01:28:00 PM »
You lose ten pounds from one inch?  That seems a little extreme.
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Offline allanburden

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 01:33:00 PM »
I shoot a K-mag that's 48# @ 28" and I draw to 29".  It' s not a screamer, but it shoots well.  It's also very quiet.  I am with bear heart also, loosing 10# with one inch in draw length is a bit extreme.
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Offline john gerrard

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 02:47:00 PM »
I'm sorry guys but that was a typo. I meant to put 42# and mistyped and put 52#. It was just a typo. See my second post where I put "I screwed up the bow pulls 42# at my 27 inch draw"

All I'm wondering is what kind of speed should I expect with a 42# Kodiak Mag pulling 27" and shooting a 545 grain carbon arrow. I'm shooting about 155 fps. Is that about average, or below average?   Thanks John

Offline ron w

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 02:51:00 PM »
I would say that sounds about right, for deer size game I would say your good to go!!! Just need good sharp broadheads.
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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 02:53:00 PM »
your just fine,, I harvested a doe with a 45#er with about the same weight arrow as you,,Take care,,JB
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Offline john fletch

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 02:59:00 PM »
The carbon arrows with modern tips should increase the speed over wood arrows with glue on 125 gr.  Energy still = mass x velocity squared

What is the bow weight requirement in your state?

Some states are 45# and some are 40# that I know of.  Of course that was figured at an AMO of 28" and they do not often consider the true cast - and speed will vary.

I think some states actually have requirments for arrow speed and arrow weight.

Of course you can get a Whitetail with what you have if you are a good hunter.

I am just amused at what is written in state F&G regs that often seem the work of Bureaucrats that do not bowhunt!!!
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Offline Bob Sarrels

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 08:06:00 PM »
You are preachin to the choir.  Here in Tex. they just reset the required draw weight on bows for state game (deer, turkey and javalina) to 0#s.  You read right.  We no longer have a minimun draw weight in this state.  It's crazy.  Was 35#s until the mid 50's and then changed to 40#s.  Sorry I got off the edge of the question but just had to vent.  The take down recurve I build and am currently hunting with  is 52 #s @28 and I draw it to 50#s @ 27".  It grafts fairly consistant at 170 fps. using a 550 gr carbon.  Plenty fast for me.
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Offline leatherneck

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 11:30:00 PM »
Hey John, you aren't giving up on those pretty bows YOU make are you?

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Offline Chuck Hoopes

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 11:45:00 PM »
Ask your self this- How would I fare if some body put a broadhead in my chest, shot from a 42# bow?  You'd be toast, right?   :eek:

Offline john gerrard

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 08:53:00 AM »
Leatherneck, as a matter of fact we are in the planning stage now to build a three piece take down.

I just like my Kodiak Mags and like to shoot them sometimes. This whole thread started out to just ask what kind of speed I should expect shooting the set up that I have. It seems like the thread got turned around to a "Is 42# enough to hunt deer" I don't know how it got turned around to that.

When we get the three piece bows done we will have to post some pictures.  Have a good day.  John

Offline Buckeye Trad Hunter

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 11:26:00 AM »
It's just like evry other campfire conversation.  We know where we started but who knows where we're goin.  :campfire:

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Re: Respectable ?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 11:42:00 AM »
That is very fast for 42# bow with short limbs; if you get good flight be happy!

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