3 bladed

[L82HUNT]

This WW was pretty destroyed from a pig.

[BMG]

from the hit, or the pig trampled it?

[Charles Sorrells]

I like the G5 Montec for a head to be resharpened and the G5 Striker Magnum for a replaceable blade head.

Like the other respected recommendations above, I have loaded the truck many, many times with them both.

Whateveryou choose...keep it sharp.

[Terry Green]

What Guru said.

[hunt it]

Here is an Xtreme that smashed a rib on entry and penetrated all the way through offside shoulder of bear this fall. This same head took 5 hogs earlier in year. If you want a three blade that will not let you down this is the one.

[elknut1]

Great looking head there! Don't really see much difference in its narrow lean design over the woodsman.

 ElkNut1

[MikeW]

Don't really see much difference in its narrow lean design over the woodsman.

It's the steel used.
I sure wish they would make that in a 150-200 grain glue on. The 300 is too heavy for my arrows. I have to buy new arrows to shoot it now,mine are under spined with it.

[Stick_N_String]

Guru,
I mostly hunt hogs and whitetails.
I haven't really looked at the offerings as far as weight in the two different heads, just assumed they each made 160 grain.
I shot the hog in my avitar with a 125 grain 2 blade magnus and was pretty dissapointed with the results. Small exit hole and no blood.
And as I shoot only wood arrows my head needs to be a glue on, I wanted to use a 3 blade but I 've also been looking at the Grizzly heads.
Thanks for the info
Daren

[Kingwouldbe]

Originally posted by Gary Logsdon:
Here's a photo I took of a 300XTREEM "resting"  at timberline in Colorado:^)

 

Hit F5 on your keyboard if the photo doesn't load.

Gary I think I heard a bugle in that pic  

Here's a 300xtreme at rest in SoCal.

[Kingwouldbe]

Originally posted by hunt it:
 

Here is an Xtreme that smashed a rib on entry and penetrated all the way through offside shoulder of bear this fall. This same head took 5 hogs earlier in year. If you want a three blade that will not let you down this is the one.

Dave, I love that camo pattern, is that a special order option    

[elknut1]

I'm always one for testing various heads on elk, that Xtreem looks good, will it come in 200 grains? 300 is too much for this cowboy! (grin)
 I did check out the provided link but see no info on the head or pricing?

 ElkNut1

[Kingwouldbe]

2007 Study Update, Part 8

The Penetration Enhancing Factors
By
Dr. Ed Ashby
This last 2007 Update presents an overview of the
penetration enhancing factors; what they are, their importance
and the degree of affect each has on your hunting arrow's
terminal performance.

Penetration is paramount:
In his article Hunting Arrows, published in Ye Sylvan
Archer in 1943, Fred Bear wrote, "a deer can be killed with
most any combination if no heavy bones are struck but what is
needed is something that will crash through where the going is
tough." In Hunting the Hard Way, referring to the success or
failure of any given hit, Howard Hill wrote; "all else being
equal, penetration is the name of the game."
Howard Hill designed his "3 to 1 ratio" broadhead with a
single goal in mind; maximum penetration on every hit. And it
was better penetration, not wider-cut, that Fred had in mind
when designing his original Razorhead. Around the campfire,
circa 1960, I heard Fred state; "The bleeder blade's job is to
open a larger hole in the skin and meat and reduce drag on the
shaft to increase arrow penetration. They're thin and brittle
so they'll shatter when they hit bone, allowing the arrow to
penetrate like any good single blade."
Both Fred and Howard recognized that penetration was the
essential requirement of every lethal hit; vital areas had to
be reached before any arrow could work. They realized the
deeper their arrow penetrated the more damage it did, and the
more areas it reached the better and faster it worked. Each
also knew that, despite their remarkable skills, they were
still vulnerable to their shots resulting in less than perfect
hits; times when success would depend totally on their arrow's
ability to penetrate whatever it encountered.
Since they could not forecast the shot they would be
offered, how the animal would react, or precisely what their
arrow might be asked to do; both Fred and Howard knew it was
important to be prepared for the worst that might happen, and
they did everything they knew to do to assure that their arrow
would penetrate every time, regardless of the hit. These two
bowhunting greats would agree that a sharp broadhead is
mandatory, yet both realized even broadhead sharpness becomes
irrelevant whenever arrow penetration is lacking. In hunting -
on any hit with any arrow of any type – when arrow penetration
falls short, absolutely nothing else about the hit matters.


As we all have our own opinions about which is the best Bows, arrows, or broadheads, I think each has advantages, some have more advantages than others.

What's funny is an attitude of, because I have had success in the past with a certain set up, that's it, there is no other way, my way is the only way.

I have to agree with Fred & Howard as far as, I want 2 hole's no matter what I hit on the shot, be it soft tissue lung, or 3" cartilage shield caked with mud on a monster boar, or a elk shoulder blade.
 

A 3 blade must move or cut more tissue to get threw whatever it hits, some like that extra cutting of tissue, however it comes at a cost, the cost! is in the form of penetration, or the lack there of.

Some will say, a 3 blade leaves a better blood trail, some times that's true, but not always, I think the sharpness of the edge and what it cuts has more to do with the amount of blood on the ground than any other factor.

Example: I shoot a buck with a 160 snuffer from a tree, I hit it in the shoulder blade, I get about 6" of penetration, no exit. That blood trail will be vary spars at best.

Now same shot using what Doctor Ashbey has shared with us, single bevel, high mechanical advantage broadhead, extreme foreword of center weight(EFOC)of over 20%-27%, minimum of 650 grain total arrow weight, now you have blown through the shoulder blade and the arrow is sticking out the bottom of it's chest. which will have the better blood tail?

Is there really such a thing as, over kill in bowhunting? I think not "IMHO"

Originally posted by Molson:
[QB]

 I let the first two go by at about 25 yds and when the third stepped into my lane, I let a big 160 grain Snuffer go tight right above the elbow.  I heard the distinct "SWACK" of a hard bone hit and when he ran off, I saw alot of arrow sticking out.  You all know that's a sickening feeling.  

Here's a pic of the Snuffer that smashed the shoulder and got one lung.  Now I swear I intended this to be a pro-Snuffer post, that's why I was using them.  And it did do it's job, but...

 

[hunt it]

Elknut1,

Other than they are both three blades thats where the similarity ends between the Xteme and a Woodsman. Strength, quality of steel and penetration characteristics of the Xtreme are second to none in the three blade arena. Look at picture of Woodsman that failed. When you show me a 300Xtreme that looks in similar state, I want a trophy shot of the locomotive you bagged!

[elknut1]

Hunt it, thanks! I'm a solid 3 blade guy here! I've used & taken elk with 2-blades, they work fine but leave a bit to be desired (blood) for all elk we've taken with them! 3-blades for me!
 I'd love to give those Xtreems a shot!
How does a guy get a hold of some?

 ElkNut1

[hunt it]

See page one this post, manyletters posted link to Get-r-done-archery and Morrison archery, they both stock them.

[elknut1]

Thanks, I just emailed Dennis. There are no weights or prices for these heads, just a photo on his Site!

 ElkNut1

[L82HUNT]

Originally posted by BabaLoo:
from the hit, or the pig trampled it?

At the release of the shot the boar turned toward me.  I believe it hit the shoulder, head on. The pig went 5 or 6 feet and the arrow fell out.  I was using a 65# longbow and  little over 700 total weight arrow.

[L82HUNT]

I hate you guys, I just ordered 3 300xtremes.  Plus my SilverFlames that I shot now.  Wow that's alot of cash in 9 broadheads  

[overbo]

King,
I've never seen a 160gr snuffer look like that after a kill.Had some 125's and WW's not fair well on a kills.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

Snuffer, Snuffer, Snuffer ! Never let me down. IMHO! You will find more animals than lose when shot with a Snuffer.Also have had the unique opportunity to shoot a bunch Russian wild Boars and shot them every which way, reverse lung,thru both shoulders. between the last 2 ribs angling forward and never lost one! Also never saw that kind of damage on a Snuffer EVER, even on a Moose shoulder blade. I'll never change.