Longbows and recurves are good for playing around but

[Friends call me Pac]

for actual hunting they are only good for wounding and loosing animals.

This was said to me while on a hunting trip this weekend with a compound shooter.  Have to admit it got under my skin.

After he said that I let him know I had shot at 3 deer this year with my recurve.  Missed once and put two in the freezer.

I wonder at what point of the two animal's death did my recurve fail to be a serious hunting bow?

[NorthernCaliforniaHunter]

Probably at the point where it didn't require the development of newfangled materials and computers to design. If **it ever hits the fan, we all know who will be able to feed himself and who will sit in a fetal position hugging himself and rocking back and forth while mumbling something about longbows...

[Terry Green]

Gun hunters can say the same thing about compound shooters.....there's a generation now that is clueless to the lethality of trad bows.  

Tell him to check out the Solana 2009 Hunt thread....were 17 trad guys set a record over taking the previous record set by 22 compounders....and our recovery rate was also higher.

[Stick_N_String]

You know, I really have some things I would like to say about this.
But I'll be nice, I know a few guys that lose animals every year with compounds, one even owns and shoots (very little) a longbow.
He has made some remarks along the lines of what you were told.
I offered to take that piece of junk longbow off his hands REAL CHEAP of course since they are not very lethal.
It's been said a thousand times and will probably be said a thousand more,
It's the man behind the string that's lethal, not the contraption in front of the man.
 I think what it really comes down to is this:
In the world today it comes down to instant gratification, If you don't see results immediately then it's inferior and not worth messing with. IMHO
Hope that was nice enough.
Daren

[mwmwmb]

terry that forum is password protected?

[arklongbowman]

sounds like someone that has never tried traditional and is too hard headed to think about it.  What would he do it his local bowshop went away?

[Terry Green]

mwmwmb.....click below...its a thread here on the PowWow.....

  Solana 2009 Thread

[James Wrenn]

Well many people just don't know any better about things.It is reasonable for someone that has no experiance with something to have doubts if they have always done things a different way that worked for them.It is just human nature and nothing to get upset about.Most times when you show them that a different way does in fact work they change there tune.jmho

[no]

Pac , dont let the guy bother you, I know plenty of compound shooters that wound deer, most shooting to far & some just bad shots. Its all the man behind the bow. Mike

[Featherbuster]

I here that a good some too. Dont let it get to you, they are just jealous they cant shoot as good as you!!!!

[Andrew Wesley]

in my experience some people are just ignorant and wont try to see things the way they are.
my step dad is like that, he's a HUGE firearms guy, i've always been an archery guy, since i was 5, when i came back from navy bootcamp he'd thrown all my staves for selfbows away because they were taking up "his" space in the shed, and he refuses to let me take part in our family business hunting predators with my bow. all because he thinks a long bow is "only good for wounding and loosing animals."
it's just something us bow guys have to put up with from these rifle and compound hunters...

[Double Tee]

This is and can be a very deep subject.The compound guy is ignorant of many things and has never really thought about the reality of things.yea compounds do shoot maybe harder,faster,etc. BUT,what happens when a screw falls out or he can't get parts blah, blah--- I have bows I bought in 1969 that shoot just as good now as they did then! what will his compound be like in 40yrs? what if his string breaks on a hunt and he doesnt have a bow press with him? If God forbid things ever go South in this world and you can't get bullets or wheel parts trad guys can still make bows and know how to shoot them and he will be up the creek! Sticks and strings have been used to feed folks for 20,000 years or more-----compounds have only been around since the early 70's or late 60's Like I said,you can go on and on so I'll quit my rant!    

[bihunter]

I know some serious target shooters, with coumpounds, that consistantly shoot perfect scores. The ones that also hunt have "ALL" wounded and or missed game.

 The only advantage I can see with a coumpound is increased shooting distance, but I'm not sure this is truely an advantage because a lot more can go wrong.

 If Howard Hill & Fred Bear were alive they would have fun with compound shooters.

[jgbennett6]

They are uneducated on the subject of the lethality of trad bows. Instead of belitting them and claiming them to be lesser outdoorsman. We as feelow hunters should educate them, hopefully to bring more to the light so they can see how fun it is. They may use different weapons but are still in the brother hood of hunters.

[reddogge]

That's when you pull out the flu-flus and aerial targets and have a $1/shot contest with Mr. Compound.  I would.

[Plumber]

you know its amazing how dumb people can be. why would anybody question the lethelness of a razor blade being shot from a 50lb. bow I like all archery. an all styles of hunting.most guys just cant see how we have success when they know the problems they have with there compounds...

[Izzy]

James Wrenn hit the nail on the head.Show the fella otherwise.

[Kip]

Pac you gotta show him a trad bow kill with a good broadhead.In the mid 60'sI started bowhunting and hunted with my mentor a man from North La. had my doubts but his son killed one the first weekend I hunted with them.That kill put my mind to rest blood 4' on the trees and 30.06 wound.Another story the lease owner would not let us hunt with a bow b/c they couldn't kill so his grandson begged to let him kill one for him to eat,after he saw the wounds we have been bowhunting ever since.Kip

[Kip]

I type too fast for a not typer it was the mid 70's and the second story was a lease where I live.ip

[BTH]

I was interviewing some elk guides at the ISE show in Sacramento. First question I asked was "have you ever guided a traditional bowhunter". One guide said basically the same thing that compounder told you. "All they seem to do is wound my elk". I scratched him off the list.