Broadhead Weight

[Jason Hansen]

Hey fellow Tradgangers!

I just switched back to traditional archery from a compound this past winter.  I'm used to shooting a 100-125gr. broadhead.  I've read some of the posts on here, as well as Dr. Ed Ashby's lethality study.  I was wondering if I could get some insight as to what weight I should start at.  I'll be shooting a XX75 2216 Legacy shaft @ 30".  I purchased some 145gr. Eclipse single bevel heads, as well as 135gr. ABowyer Boneheads.  I really like the ABowyer broadheads.  With the aluminum adapter, it has a total weight of 170gr. and with the 100gr. steel adapter the total weight is 235gr.  My question is, would that setup have too much weight up front?  Any advice, or insight would be much appreciated.  My draw length is 28" and the weight of my recurve is 50lbs.

[Schultzy]

See how they fly and go from there. I'm kind of In the same boat here being I'm trying to up my FOC with my 2216 Aluminum's.

Good luck!!

[Bowmania]

I think a 2216 will be to stiff even with a 235 gr pt.  I'm shooting 51 at 28 and drawing to 29.  2114's and 2016 shoot fine with 125 gr, so I'm about sure your 135 would and probably the 170.  Don't need the heavy adaptors.  10 grs is nothing.

Bowmania

[Fletcher]

A 2216 is about 82 lb and alot of arrow for a 50 lb draw, but shooting 30" with a 235 gr point, you will need more than a 2016.  If your Widow is cut past center, your 2216 may work.  The only way to know for sure is to shoot it.  It is going to be a heavy arrow for 50 lb, so don't plan on winning any races with it.

[Wudstix]

My experience is about 10 grains per pound is good for speed.  The Easton chart on the internet is real close to what I have found works for me.

[Dave2old]

Sounds like you need more weight up front. One way to do that and stick with the heads you prefer is to get rid of the aluminum adaptors, which Ashby calls the weakest part of a component arrow system, due to a high failure rate, and go with steel or brass. I am currently experimenting with both wood and carbon to see what happens when I keep adding weight up front. What happens is that my groups just keep getting better up to about 750 grains, beyond which point the drop (55# longbow) is excessive at 25 yards. Should be similar with aluminums.

[frassettor]

To much weight up front??? Absolutly not!! I shoot 360 gr up front!  

[Jason Hansen]

I spoke to a couple guys, as well as Easton.  With the specs I gave, Easton recommended the 2216.  I was in between the 2117 and 2216, but they pushed more towards the 2216, which comes out to a 380 spine.

I've got some Eclipse and Abowyer heads.  I've got to admit, I like the looks and design of both, but those Abowyer heads are REALLY nice!  Plus, the gentleman I spoke too was super helpful and nice.

I've also got some 2016s my father gave me, but they seem aweful weak.  I can give them a try as well to see how they fly.

Dave--thanks for the tip!  I actually ordered some of the 100gr. steel adapters right before I read your reply.  That will put me at 235gr.  I think I just need to experiment with shafts and point weight.

Schultzy--I'm after the same thing...more weight, not speed.  What point weights have you experimented with so far?

Thanks for the replies everyone!  

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

I agree with Fletcher about the 2216's being way too stiff. I used to shoot 2215's out of a recurve pulling 55# @ 32". The Easton charts are notorious for being 2-3 spine groups too stiff.

[Jason Hansen]

What do you all think about the 2117?

[owlbait]

I like 2213 at that weight. Works for me. 10# heavier 2215.

[Dave Lay]

I also agree on a 2216 being to stiff. I shoot them out of a 60lb recurve ith 200 up front I think a 2117 will get ya closer, but I would lean more towards a 2020 (same spine as a 2215) or something at your bow weight and a heavy head..its a great shaft skinny and heavy..

[Boone the Hunter]

I shoot 2216's with a 32'' draw shooting 50#  with 200 grain abowyer boneheads, for me that rig flies great because of my long power stroke, not sure if that would be to stiff for you, I did a lot of experimenting to get it just right I like steel inserts, and grind the cone down to get my heads to about 200 total, but I do think heavier is better to a point, I would try shooting a few different shaft and tip weights to find what's best