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Author Topic: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?  (Read 766 times)

Offline ozy clint

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black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« on: February 22, 2009, 10:11:00 PM »
i've tried googling for some pics but i can't seem to find any. anyone got some links or diagrams? i'm a newbie to this north american game and i need the lowdown. what would be the diameter of the kill zone for each?
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 10:43:00 PM »
Alright Clint, here are a couple photos done by a friend of mine ( who many of you know) BB. Bill is very knowledgeable about these things. Mabey I can get him to do the same for bear.
I know one is an antelope, but it is relatively the same for elk. The dark line represents 6" off the "crease"
 
 
This next one illistrates where the shoulder is, as well as the leg bones, in the shaded area.
 
Have fun hunting both species, they are two of my three favorites.
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 08:49:00 AM »
Clint,

The blackbear is the same as a hog.  Keep it forward and low and your good too go.  Remember they have 3-4 inches of hair hanging down under the chest.  Forgot to tell Rusty that one once.  OOPS.

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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 10:22:00 AM »
thanks guys. gee elk have big lungs and they go high and back a long way
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 02:07:00 PM »
Excellent pics (BB) and thanks for sharing Ryan, those are helpful no matter how many ya killed, it is always good to be reminded.
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 07:44:00 PM »
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 05:03:00 AM »
OK - I am looking at the elk cut away view; and it looks like either the gut has been removed; or the photo flipped. The liver is on the right side; and the stomach to the left of it...

 cool photos - and yes elk have long lungs. So will you while chasing them    :D
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 09:49:00 AM »
Having once shot a big  deer in the scapula I developed  a habit of shooting too far back, and continue to fight that. Essentially, straight up from the elbow, low in the chest  is correct for broadside shots on everything. On quartering. trying to shot through the off side shoulder will put you in the goodies.
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 09:58:00 AM »
The elk cut out photo is somewhat off you might say! (grin) The heart, lungs, liver, stomach are all out of a moose & put into an elks body just for representation purposes. An elks organs are not that big as photo shown! But does give one a decent perspective to what organs are where.

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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2009, 12:42:00 AM »
AH HAH !!
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Offline Mike Orton

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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2009, 09:31:00 AM »
Clint,

There is a book called "The Perfect Shot" authored by Craig Boddington.  He has made these books for African and North American game.  Available through the Safari Press Co of Huntington Beach, CA.  The book does an excellent job depicting the schematic cutouts of most all the Big Game animals.

Well worth the investment, if you have the interest in learning...
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2009, 09:53:00 AM »
The bear anatomy pictures are good , my boys and I have shot over 30 bear and the best shot was always just behind the shoulder and half way between the back and belly, broad side is better than quartering as you have 2 holes. Bears are thin skinned and their ribs are soft. Bears rib cage is shaped different from top to bottom than a deer you dont want to be off much in elevation....Tim
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Re: black bear and elk kill zones. where art thou?
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