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Author Topic: Bareshaft tuning necassary?  (Read 1297 times)

Offline elbow

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Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« on: March 08, 2009, 06:53:00 PM »
I am sure this topic has been beat to death, but is barshafting necassary? I have read O.L. ' s directions five times and have been trying, I have an SAII with full length 2216's, 1145 grain heads, I dont know if I am a good enough shot yet to bare shaft. I do know if I cut my arrows to 32" they seem to fly great. I wont be able to buy any more this year [I have 18] what should I do? Continue trying to bare shaft or cut them and call it close enough?

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 06:55:00 PM »
Whats the weight of your bow and how far do you draw?  Might be able to help out some.

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 08:54:00 PM »
My bow is 55 lbs @ 28", I pull it to about 30 ". Any help would be appreciated. I wonder about Bryron Fergusons method of cutting the shaft in relation to how far the nock is right on impact although OL says this is irrelevant. I am not sure which method to go with but I dont want to cut my shafts prematurly. Any ideas? If it appears to me the arrows are flying straght by eye, even with a broadhead on, I guess my question is are they really?

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 09:02:00 PM »
If you're still coming over tomorrow, we'll get you all tuned up.
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 09:08:00 PM »
No
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »
If your BH's and feild points are grouping together you are done. IMO.

I always use a wide broadhead, it'll show you the same thing as a bareshaft without all the form flaws.

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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 08:12:00 AM »
NO!!!!

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 08:19:00 AM »
No.
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 08:32:00 AM »
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Bareshaft tuning necassary?  
No.

But it is a great tool to quickly either get, or verify you are tuned to your center range(most forgiving) for both spine and nock hght.  If you watch a slo mo video of an arrow with "perfect flight", you quickly see that having the ability for the human eye to determine perfect flight is a myth. No arrow flys like "a dart" - when flight is bad enough to see, it is really bad.

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Offline R H Clark

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 09:04:00 AM »
If you have enough experience to know what will work from your bow like George,Ben and Biggie,it is not necessary.However if you are new and try to shoot a .350 shaft from a 45lb bow because you wanted the extra weight of the .350 shaft,it is necessary if for no other reason than to show you that you were wrong.

Offline James Wrenn

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 09:44:00 AM »
No , many people have been shooting for years without doing it.There are also many that find it very easy and the quickest way to set up a bow and have been doing it for many years.Stick big enough feathers on the back and twist them real tight and anything looks good going down range.Just one other way people tune bows.  ;)
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 09:53:00 AM »
No it's not

If you are using it beware that a stiff arrow can give you a weak indication by bouncing off the shelf midway up the arrow.

Try heavier AND lighter points before cutting to be sure
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Offline Jeff Strubberg

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 10:13:00 AM »
It's not "necessary", but everything gets easier if your arrows match your bow.

I'd use a metal fence post strung with brake cable for a bow before I would shoot an arrow I hadn't tuned.  Without tuning, you are guessing that your shooting is the problem. After tuning, you KNOW.    ;)
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 10:54:00 AM »
No. However, I have knowledgable people stand behind me to help check for flight problems etc. I wouldn't just go by my eye alone as I've discovered that people have in the past caught a little "kick" that I hadn't. It was great when Ray owned Lost Nation in NH because he not only had buckets of arrows to tune with, he would actually help you tune/pick the right arrow for your bow. As a beginner then I found his expertise invaluable. I am shooting the same arrow out of two different bows now which I think is great for hunting travel trips. The only difference is the arrow sticks further out on my longbow than my recurve by about an inch.
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 02:22:00 PM »
Not if you are going to shoot BH's..If you aren't, it's the only way you'll do a good job.

"I have read O.L. ' s directions five times and have been trying, I have an SAII with full length 2216's, 1145 grain heads, I dont know if I am a good enough shot yet to bare shaft."

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »
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Originally posted by elbow:
I am sure this topic has been beat to death, but is barshafting necassary?  
No, it's just one of many ways to make sure your setup is tuned.

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2009, 03:05:00 PM »
If you're going to shoot carbons, I think you'll discover bareshafting is cheaper.

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 04:34:00 PM »
I think he has answer to his question after the two hours we spent today.    ;)
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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 04:43:00 PM »
The good old paper test is enough. I am with Kelly Peterson on this subject. Bareshaft testing is way overrated and for a lot of people creates confusion.
If you can´t shoot tight groups with a fletched arrow, how will you do it with an arrow without fletching?
Bareshafting is a method to finetune setups of experienced archers with a consistent form. It is real popular with olympic archers and should remain pretty much in this category.

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Re: Bareshaft tuning necassary?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 04:44:00 PM »
O. L., did you say that backwards? I needed to bareshaft to get my broadheads flying right. With field points, you can shoot a much wider range of spine and get acceptable performance, but for broadheads you have to be right on.
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