Ive attempted to stalk them a dozen times---and detected before I could get w/in Bow range- except once, -that is if you call 40yds bow range. Anyway I did manage to lob one in on a big Tom. He flew off w/ my arrow, and than went down a 150yds out. He was a good one 10" beard, and fine eating. I figure Ive used up all my alotted luck on Turkey. Their ability to pick up the slighest movement makes the spot and stalk method unrealistic. Ive never tried the spot,set-up,and call method--but Iam thinking I really like the idea of that. Got be be some high drama in that-- and I can see this as challenging, w/ the bonus you might actually get an arrow in to one of them,now and again.