I have a tradtech Pinnacle 1, and a Warf, black bear compound riser with Hoyt Sky Jack Carbon ILF limbs. The pinnacle is the fastest, sweetest shooting longbow I have ever shot. I hate to say it, but that old compound warfed riser with these limbs is my smoothest shooting, most accurate bow that I have, including my BW's!1 My Quinns are barley behind the Warf, but they are more handy to hunt with. The draw back with a ILF riser is that if you arent careful, you can tinker yourself to death trying to find that magic setup, all the different limbs etc out there. I swapped around with 2 or 3 till I found the ones I shot best and kept them. On the other hand when you get a riser you like, limbs are usually cheaper than a bow!