Author Topic: Traditional Only Shafts (Read 823 times)

KentuckyTJ · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Just ordered some traditional only (400) shafts from 3-Rivers. Anyone have a report on them. I've used Gold tips for years, how do they compare? I see they are heavier which will be a good thing.

Thanks T.J.

Smallwood · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:59:00 PM »

I'm pretty sure they are the old beman classic ics shaft. they should have the same wood grain pattern on them as the axis/mfx arrows.
very good quality, but so are gts.

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:05:00 PM »

I think you are right. I clicked on an online spine chart and it's head read Easton/Beman ICS MFS.

Anyone else have two cents on this one?

Thanks T.J.

Stringslap16 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2009, 06:26:00 PM »

I know Easton makes them. Haven't shot them though.

Tater · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2009, 06:29:00 PM »

I have a dozen 500's I ordered for one of my lighter bows and they are very good quality the finish looks like my MFX Classics. I am happy and think they are a good deal for the price.
Weight and straightness seem consistent.
pat

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:14:00 PM »

Thanks Tater. I was stuck between the 400's and 500's. If I think the 400's are too stiff for my bows I'll sell them and get the 500's. Would you mind telling me your bow specs you use the 500's with?

I have 4 recurves from 50-54 pounds I'll be using them on and my draw is 26".

Thanks T.J.

George D. Stout · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:28:00 PM »

You will even have to front load the 500 pretty much unless you leave them long.

Jason R. Wesbrock · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:33:00 PM »

Yes, they are the same as the ICS Classics. I've been shooting ICS shafts for several years and really like them. And since you can get the Classics for $60/dozen, they're a great deal.

Tater · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:36:00 PM »

KentucTJ,
I bought the arrows to shoot out of a 48# Griffin I have them cut 29" with a 50gr insert and a 145gr point 195gr total up front. They were still a little light for me so I added a piece of weed-eater string in the shaft to get the weight up to 500gr.
They fly like darts!!
Tater

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2009, 09:53:00 PM »

Getting mixed signal here. George says they will be too stiff and Tater is telling me with my 100 grain brass inserts and 100 grain points they should be fine. Oh well I'll know it a few days I guess.

If they don't work for my does anyone want them? I'll just cut and fletch one of them.

Tater · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:04:00 PM »

KentucTJ,
Are your bows 50 to 54 at your draw or 50-54 at 28"? If they are 50 to 54 @ 28 and you are drawing 26" then your actually shooting 44 to 48 pounds at 44 they may be borderline stiff but maybe ok at 48. I know they work for me at 48# everyone is different and release and bow style can be a factor the Griffin is a pretty efficient bow pound for pound.

crandog · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »

Give them a try. So far I like mine. I got the 400's. I used to shoot 2117's out of my 59# curve and they have a 400 deflection. However when I got mine I loaded 100 grains to the insert and they bareshafted great. Would have been too light for my liking anyway. They're around 525 grains now.

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:31:00 PM »

Tater, they are 50-54lbs @ 28" and I draw 26". So you are correct. I want to cut them at 29" also as I usually do. We will see. My Morrison and Schafer throws them pretty hard so maybe they will bend them right.

Danny J · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:33:00 PM »

KentuckyTJ,
Your set ups and draw are pretty much same as mine. I use 500's for my recurves and 1916's or 2013's for my longbows cut at 28.5 to 29". I am using 125-145 grain with standard inserts. I cant get 400's to work good in any of my bows even with 200gr field points. The 400 carbons are left over from my compound days.

NorthernCaliforniaHunter · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:32:00 AM »

Kentucky,
If they don't work for you I'll give 'em a shot!

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:42:00 AM »

Thanks guys, I sent 3 rivers an email asking them to switch to the 500's if they haven't left the building yet. They just replied saying they were able to make the switch.

Thanks for the offer NCH.

T.J.

George D. Stout · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:03:00 PM »

T.J.....You should be okay with the 500 if you use over 200 gr. up front and let them at least 29". Carbons are spined a 28" so even the .500 is spined over 60 pounds. Carbon manufacturers have a ways to go with spine tolerance, and I'm sure we will see big improvements over the next couple years as they recognize the need for traditional bow shooters.

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:55:00 PM »

Thanks George, I hope they fly well. If so I'll order more. I hope you are right about the manufacturers. I do my part in trying to grow traditional archery every chance I get.

Thanks T.J.

KentuckyTJ · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:44:00 PM »

Update: I've shot Gold tips for years. These are the first arrows I've ever shot that were built for us trad guys (and gals) in mind. I thought my Gold tips were flying good until I shot these. Wow, bullet straight with no waver and they hit harder.

The nocks are very nice and tight inside the shafts and no need to epoxy in the inserts. I just used hot melt glue and they are rock solid.

My bows are 50-54 lbs @28" and I draw 26". These are the Traditional Only 500's from http://www.3riversarchery.com/ I put 100 grain brass inserts in them as well and they shot 125-145 points equally as well.

MCNSC · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:07:00 PM »

I like that they say made in USA right there in plain sight. What lenght did you end up with with your set up?
Mike


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