I have the tradonly in .500 and leaving them full length, 31 1/2" w/ regular insert and 200 point, they fly weak...but not weak enough that I feel I can cut them the 29 1/2" to 30" I want to end up with. Been shooting them from a Zipper SXT #44 @ 28 and drawing 28 3/4", bow is cut about 1/8 past center...hence check the arrows for sale, if you want a great deal...gonna give the GT 15/35's a try...if I can find them, the TRADONLY'S are a great looking arrow and well built!hope I'm not making a mistake.........