Author Topic: nocks in carbons ? (Read 1174 times)

horatio1226 · « **on:** April 21, 2009, 07:42:00 PM »

I just got some new carbons with the nocks installed. I went out and shot them and some of the nocks came out already. Are they supposed to be glued in? Thanks
Brian

Cody Roiter · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:57:00 PM »

Nope on all the carbons I have had never had them glued in...

LostNation_Larry · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:08:00 PM »

In general you do not need to glue in nocks. I've seen nocks pull out when they were too tight on the string. I've also seen nocks that didn't fit as tight in the shaft as they were supposed to. Do the nocks stay on your string or do they bounce out after the arrow hits the target? Bouncing out is more common when you have a very hard target. Lots of nocks will come out if you shoot into wood.

horatio1226 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:03:00 PM »

These nocks came out in flight.They actually flew beyond the target. I think that I need to sand them out a little. Could be just a tad too tight on the string. Thanks for the help.

wapiti · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:44:00 PM »

You can use rubber cement to help hold them in if they fit too loose in the shafts. Some brands you darn near have to hammer them in and other slip in way too easy. DO NOT glue them with a perment glue like Fletch Tite, Duco, Crazy Glue etc. If they break ther is no replacing them.

MYSTIKBOW · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »

Brian,
I use a nice tight wrap of seranwrap on the nock before inserting it if it's a little loose. Makes the nock fit good and tight and is a cinch to remove the nock if necessary.

Jeff Strubberg · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:25:00 AM »

I glue mine in. More specifically, I superglue mine in. If you don't, get used to sticking some spares in your pocket when you head for a shoot.

If I need to replace one, I dremel off the nock and drill out the plug. Takes a couple seconds longer, but the upside is I never wonder about nocks coming off.

SlowBowinMO · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:34:00 AM »

If they are coming off in flight I believe they are too tight on the string, too loose in the arrow or both.

Leo L. · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:44:00 AM »

Are they Carbon Express TCX nocks? The ones that come with Heritage arrows? If so, I had the very same problem. I switched to the Easton Super nocks and haven't had a problem at all.

PICKNGRIN · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2009, 01:22:00 PM »

They may be tight on the string. Another good way to get them to fit tighter in the shaft without gluing is to cut a plastic grocery bag into little squares (about 1" or so). Pull the nock out of the shaft and place a grocery bag square over the hole in the shaft. Push the nock in. When you have it pushed almost all the way in, take a knife and trim away the excess plastic bag, and push the nock the rest of the way in. Really works.

1/4 away · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2009, 01:36:00 PM »

I use nock adapters on my carbons and glue on bohning classic nocks. Never lost a nock but if I do break one its easy to pry off the broken nock and glue on another .

JC · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

I regularly blow nocks out of arrows when I hit something hard, no matter what arrow I use. I will eventually superglue most of my nocks because they may hold for a few hits but eventually, a nock pops out if the arrow doesn't break first. After gluing, sometimes the nock will even shear off, leaving the base in the arrow. All is not lost! I have a couple of tiny wood screws in my arrow box sized to fit the left over part of either a uni-nock or x-nock. Gently screw it in with my fingers and pull...ready to install a new nock. Don't use more than a tiny drop of superglue or you will have a trouble as Wapiti said.

IF your nocks are coming off when you shoot, you have the wrong nock for the shafts or your nocks are waaaaaay too tight on the string.

dino · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2009, 02:43:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Leo L.:
Are they Carbon Express TCX nocks? The ones that come with Heritage arrows? If so, I had the very same problem. I switched to the Easton Super nocks and haven't had a problem at all.

I just fletched up 20 doz CX heritage shafts last night and noticed that their TCX nocks are starting to fits the shafts REALLY loose on some. Some nocks were staying in the fletcher when I pulled the shafts out and I could slide them back in with little to no resistance. That has definately chnaged recently because they never used to be that loose. Be curious which shafts you are shooting Brian. I would switch them to Easton nocks, bohning signatures or nock adapters with glue on nocks. dino

horatio1226 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2009, 08:02:00 PM »

I'm shooting Heritage 250's. I was shooting them fine but when I switched strings the serving was a tad bigger.I shot a dozen arrows and 3 nocks came off. Some seemed fine. I took a nail file emery board and sanded the inside of the nocks a little. I'll try it tomorrow. If that doesn't work, I'll try the plastic bag trick. If that doesn't work, I'll glue em in. I find it very frustrating

. I never have this problem with my woodies

metsastaja · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2009, 08:17:00 PM »

Same problem here with heritage.. I switch the nock out..

Rob DiStefano · « **Reply #15 on:** April 22, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »

i wouldn't use super glue for push-on carbon shaft nocks - they ain't ever coming out, there'll always be the stem stuck inside the tube and you'd trash the shaft to get it out.

just as with screw-in points, i use a teeny tiny pinhead of loctite blue on every push-in carbon nock (bohning sigs) and they don't budge when i center punch a new hardwood tree stump. i use a nock remover to twist off or re-align the nock.

ymmv.

« **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2009, 01:22:00 PM »

I never had this problem until I added weight tubes to the carbon shafts. Now, as often as not, the arrow goes through the traget leaving the weight tube and nock behind.

Jeff Strubberg · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2009, 02:02:00 PM »

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i wouldn't use super glue for push-on carbon shaft nocks - they ain't ever coming out, there'll always be the stem stuck inside the tube and you'd trash the shaft to get it out.

It's not really that big a deal. Cut the nock off flush with the shaft, a couple of turns with a drill at slow speed pops the nock stub loose and you glue in another.

I would say that once you glue a nock in, you won't get a slide in to stay put. Of course, if they stayed put, there wouldn't be any reason to glue them in in the first place.

chrisg · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2009, 02:22:00 PM »

I had the same problem with easton epics all new nocks were really tight to start with, I sand them to fit the string but after a day or two they started popping out, seems the impact loosens them, my target butt is not that hard, neverthelss I put a spot or two of cheap hot melt on them and they hold now. I can get them out if needs be. I like the shopping bag idea though. Recycling rocks!
chrisg

MMilin · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2009, 03:27:00 PM »

I shoot CX-100s and CX-150 Maximas exclusively. G-nock inserts are, in fact, glued into the shaft. The G-nock itself slips into the insert as a perfect fit; it is NOT glued into the insert.

Because of the insert's design, Robin Hoods are virtually eliminated. Even damaged nocks are rare.

The combo costs a LITTLE more than a simple push-in nock, but they pay for themselves many times over, in terms of arrow life.

Whatever carbon you choose, there must be a G-nock or something similar that you can use. You will love 'em.

Mark


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