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Author Topic: is it better to be stiff or weak  (Read 836 times)

Offline mike319

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is it better to be stiff or weak
« on: June 06, 2009, 06:52:00 PM »
when bare shafting is it better to end up alittle on the stiff side.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 07:00:00 PM »
weak

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 07:13:00 PM »
I would guess it depends on how long your bareshaft arrow is.  If it's weak you can shorten it a little at a time to dial it in if you have the length.  If it's stiff add weight to the point...easier maybe.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 07:34:00 PM »
Slightly weak for sure.  Remember that fletchings will have the effect of stiffening the shaft.  So, if you finish bareshafting with a shaft that hits weak by about 3-4 inches, you should be dead on when you add your feathers.

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 08:04:00 PM »
thanks for the help

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 05:51:00 AM »
Being in the archery business over the years I have always been able to get a stiff arrow to fly but not a wqeak spine that never recovers..


stiff you can add tip weight etc.
you should see how I use to shoot
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 07:02:00 AM »
I reckon there's more room for error on the stiff side of things; way too stiff still flies (just try shooting one of your own arrows out of a kid's bow); a little weak is okay, too, but any more and they'll be all over the place (especially with broadheads). Well, they're my observations.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 07:48:00 AM »
Slightly weak when bareshafting. Fletching and broadheads will stiffen the arrow slightly.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 07:56:00 AM »
My bare-shafting set has 125 g. points, so I go a little stiff to compensate for heavier broadheads.

Dan Quillian thought it was better to be a little stiff, because slightly stiff arrows shoot better (more accurately) than slightly weak ones.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 08:11:00 AM »
stiff
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2009, 09:21:00 AM »
JMHO, but I was taught to be ever so slightly weak on the bareshaft for several reasons. As pinecone and vermonster have already said you are adding about 30-40 grains to the back of the arrow with feathers which stiffens the spine. Also most people in a hunting situation with extra clothes, cold, buck fever, etc, etc; tend to short draw a little too. All these issues add up to a potentially stiff arrow. Again, JMHO.

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 10:51:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Pinecone:
Slightly weak for sure.  Remember that fletchings will have the effect of stiffening the shaft.  So, if you finish bareshafting with a shaft that hits weak by about 3-4 inches, you should be dead on when you add your feathers.

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 12:01:00 PM »
The lady is right, as usual. The bare shaft should be slightly under spined.

Offline mike319

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2009, 02:03:00 PM »
so from what i gather its a matter of opinion some like it on the stiff side and some like it on the weak side.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2009, 02:07:00 PM »
ur right , I meant slightly week...
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 05:38:00 PM »
A lot of it is subjective, depending on your shooting style and type of bow, among other things.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2009, 05:48:00 PM »
Mike ,
When Bare shafting you do need to be a "tad" weak as most have said . BUT for a arrow already fletched with points or broadheds ready to hunt , being a little stiff is better than being a little weak if that makes any since to ya .

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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2009, 06:51:00 PM »
Ken Beck says it is better to be a little over spined. But I try to never disagree with a lady who has killed a lot more animals than I have.
I would try OL's method of three bare shaft and three fletched shafts for shooting, and getting them to group together.
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 07:10:00 PM »
Rick Welch says it is better to be a little under spined, and I wouldn't disagree with a man who has won as many tournaments as he has.  I wonder though....obviously being as good an archer as he is, he must have a near perfect release.  Could that have anything to do with why he prefers an underspined arrow, whereas that might not work out as well for the rest of us?
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Re: is it better to be stiff or weak
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2009, 10:40:00 PM »
Somebody explain "add fletching to stiffen the arrow".  WHAT ABOUT THE ARROW THAT IS FLETCHED!!!  We're shooting bare shafts and fletched then looking at the difference in impact.  To me that statement doesn't make sense.

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