new woodsman bh

[tmccall]

I never noticed a hiss on my old WW.  I'm looking forward to trying the new ones...

[daveycrockett]

My new ones do not hiss, or I'm deaf. One or the other.

[Guru]

I've been shooting WW since 2000....the older one's barely made a hiss......but the new one I have without a doubt whistles all the way to the target...
Not a great big deal, but I wish it didn't  

[Rocky Reimer]

I am not deaf....my Elites hisssss....my Magnus heads and 220 grain 4 blade Phantoms are way more quiet....BUT.....there is only one degree of dead no matter what broadhead you choose to use.....

[J-dog]

I think you can get them closer to that degree of dead when you are not telegraphing the fact you are trying to make them that degree of dead! LOL

I might try to cut down the helical and just see if that works. Still have some old ones will try themn as well.

While I am trying to quiet them I will keep the file on the grizzes!

J

[Rocky Reimer]

LEGAL.....ETHICAL.....SCAREY SHARP..."The Only Way To Go"

[Guru]

Originally posted by Rocky Reimer:
LEGAL.....ETHICAL.....SCAREY SHARP..."The Only Way To Go"

:confused:    

[Benny Nganabbarru]

I like Woodsmans, too, but darn! My camel skeletons and a heap of other feral skeletons just got up and walked away!    

There are lots of ways to go!  

[Ringneck]

Any suggestions from the 3 Rivers guys who are reading this? Bump to the top.

[TradOnly]

I've used them with my longbow and my recurve into layered foam from 10 to 25 yards and they whistle all the way to the target.  As near as I can figure it seems to come down to rotation speed.  I've worked hard to get my arrows to spin as much as possible for stability and with the Elites it seems to be a detriment.  I think selling them to get a quality 2-blade is my best option.

[COMBER]

I shot one of the Woodsman Elites and I thought my 3d target was going to duck the arrow. I love the design of the head but something needs to be done about the "HISSSSSSS". There are too many great heads out there to have to worry about doctoring up your broadheads to quiet the down. I've shot snuffers and they also have a slight hiss but nothing close to the woodsman elite I shot. The first thing I do when I shoot any broadhead is make sure it spins true.
Just my opinion,
                Jake

[Boomerang]

Well guys it's like this. Any time you have a perferated object spinning in the air, you will have a certain amount of noise associated with it. We tried beveling the edges and that did not make any difference. They have been tested in 3 Rivers lab and do not make as much or even less noise as the originals. The only way to make them slightly quieter is to remove the rib between the two vents, but that would just create a weak spot for the blades to cave in. A little noise in a broadhead isn't going to make or break hitting your game seeing how your bow being shot is going to be the loudest part of the whole process. I think you will find that with this design, you will not need a whole lot of fletching to steer you arrow. A minimal amount of rotation equals a minimal amount of noise.
The only way to eliminate almost all noise is to not have any venting which increases the weight to 175 gr. minimum. Which the ventless ones are in the works 175 and 200 gr., but for the ones that want 125 and 150 gr. they have to have vents.

Thanks,
Boomer

[Whip]

175 and 200 grain?  That sounds like my perfect broadhead!  Can't wait to see them  

[James Wrenn]

Maybe if they make them bigger like a snuffer they won't be so loud.  :D  

I read in the other thread that the WW noise issue had been disscussed at length and addressed when building the new heads.From reading this thread and others on different websites it sounds like it was just dismissed instead of addressed.  

[Ringneck]

Originally posted by James Wrenn:
I read in the other thread that the WW noise issue had been disscussed at length and addressed when building the new heads.From reading this thread and others on different websites it sounds like it was just dismissed instead of addressed.  

+1

[elkbreath]

So, any chance the 200 grain will be a glue on?  
Any chance they'll be available for sept this year?

[IronCreekArcher]

Originally posted by Ringneck:
 

Originally posted by James Wrenn:
I read in the other thread that the WW noise issue had been disscussed at length and addressed when building the new heads.From reading this thread and others on different websites it sounds like it was just dismissed instead of addressed.  

+1 [/b]

Make that +1 more...

[IronCreekArcher]

So in past posts it seems I have been looked upon as CRAZY in saying that the WW's and Snuffers Hissed in flight.  I have to say that it feels good to be vindicated, validated or whatever.  In my testing and standing down range the bow noise is definitly quieter than the hissing broadhead.  The heads may kill game but I sure would hate to telegraph my shots and maybe give the animal an opportunity to move or jump resulting in a poor hit.  Deadly quiet in the bow and arrow setup is the only way to go IMHO.

[Boomerang]

Guys,
The noise issue was adressed in the new broadheads and it was kept to a minimum, but I don't care what broadhead you shoot as long as there are vents you are going to have a certain amount of air noise. The real question is it affecting the quantity of game taken or is it just bothering the shooter? Personaly I believe it is the shooter seeing how many game have been taken with vented broadheads over the years.

Thanks,
Boomer

[TradOnly]

I would love to check out the 175 grain non-vented head.  That seems to be the best way to go.  I have some bodkins that fly great and are deadly silent.  My only wishes for them are a narrower profile and a solid piece design.