Author Topic: Waiting for "new" heavy broadheads (Read 754 times)

Ken Taylor · « **on:** June 23, 2009, 09:08:00 PM »

Is it me that's out of touch, or have all those heavy broadheads we were "promised" last year after Dr. Ashby's most recent recommendations just not appeared yet?

J-dog · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:10:00 PM »

They put out a 300 grain jobber with his name on it, though he makes no money off of it of course. Looking for others?

Orion · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:25:00 PM »

Abowyer is offering several fairly heavy single bevel broadheads.

IronCreekArcher · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:10:00 PM »

Check out Alaska Bowhunting Supply they have the new Ashby it's built to the Dr.'s spec and carries a very heafty price tag. Abowyer also has some more reasonably priced models in heavy weights.

Ken Taylor · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:27:00 PM »

Thanks guys, will look into it tomorrow. I had checked with a couple of well known suppliers but couldn't see any.

My bear season is just about over (only coaching and photography remaining for me) but I wanted to start tinkering for my fall big game seasons.

SlowBowinMO · « **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2009, 12:14:00 AM »

Ken, we developed a line up of 6 different heavyweight Tuskers that have been extremely popular.

They range from 190 to 300 grains and unlike some of the others mentioned are value priced at $14.99 for a 3 pack. You can see them at the link below.

Tusker Broadheads at Braveheart Archery

slivrslingr · « **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:07:00 AM »

If you want a heavyweight, why not just mount some 190 gr. Grizzly's on 100 gr. steel adapters and save yourself some $$? I guess the biggest drawback to that is if you shoot LW fletchings, but something to consider if you shoot RW. And if you want even more weight up front, screw them into 100 gr. brass inserts, by my math, that's a whopping 390 gr. up front!

wtpops · « **Reply #7 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:24:00 AM »

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Originally posted by slivrslingr:
If you want a heavyweight, why not just mount some 190 gr. Grizzly's on 100 gr. steel adapters and save yourself some $$? I guess the biggest drawback to that is if you shoot LW fletchings, but something to consider if you shoot RW. And if you want even more weight up front, screw them into 100 gr. brass inserts, by my math, that's a whopping 390 gr. up front!

Some of the suppliers are selling these heads in left and right spin so you just buy what is needed for your fletch preferance.

Steve H. · « **Reply #8 on:** June 24, 2009, 01:09:00 PM »

"why not just mount some 190 gr. Grizzly's on 100 gr. steel adapters"

Cause "real-men" shoot wood! (I bet I raise some hackles with this one!)

Mojostick · « **Reply #9 on:** June 24, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »

Steelforce makes a great near 3:1 single bevel that's 275grs. It's not yet on their website, but they have them.
Same with the Steelforce 3:1 double bevel titanium, in 200grs.

Ken Taylor · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2009, 03:55:00 PM »

All this support is great.

I guess I should have included more information on my setup and preferences.

I shoot fairly heavy (mid 70#s @ 29 1/2 and 30" depending on the riser and grip) left handed bows with right wing feathers (which give me an extra contact point at full draw).

I Use both wood and aluminum shafts but prefer wood for big game.

I have always liked lots of F.O.C. and since my shafts are heavy, that is hard to get with glue ons. I have always liked heavy and quiet. Slow doesn't bother me in the least.

My favorite animal to hunt is moose, I have hunted grizzly bears without success and plan on hunting dangerous game while I am still able too.

I will be experimenting with what you have suggested so far. Thanks a million all!

SlowBowinMO · « **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:15:00 PM »

If you're wanting to boost FOC on your woodies check out our new point loading jig, guys love 'em!

They're on our website here:

Arrow Jigs

And there's more info here on the Sponsor's classifieds:

Point Jig thread in Sponsor\\'s classifieds

Since you shoot right wing, the point insert with a heavy Grizzly could be just the ticket.

slivrslingr · « **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2009, 06:37:00 PM »

Good to hear the Grizzly's are coming in LW now as well. Woodie weights and a Griz should work as well.

Jason Jelinek · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2009, 06:45:00 PM »

Don't forget using Woody Weights to boost point weight.

albertan · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:45:00 PM »

Zwickey is now offering a 4blade 170 gr screw in No Mercy bhead. I have had great luck with 4blades on moose, black bears, wtails, mule deer and am going to try these as soon as "braveheart" gets them in.

tiur · « **Reply #15 on:** June 25, 2009, 06:46:00 AM »

Ken, there is a 3 blade solid 300xtreem screw in
and this one should put down a moose.
check it out at peteward,s site.
Good luck
Asgeir

Jason Jelinek · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2009, 10:27:00 AM »

I have both the Abowyer Brown Bears and Grizzly El Grande 150s and 190s.

The Abowyer Brown Bears come with a nicely ground bevel, still not sharp but you can get there quickly with a Lansky. One of the heads I received did not have a straight edge, one was convex the other concave. The Lansky handled it just fine.

The Grizzly El Grande 150s and 190s came with a really poor bevel. I now have a belt/disc sander combo and using a jig that SOS came up with I can get a decent bevel on them. Once the bevel is done it's not that hard to get a really nice edge on them. The 190s have harder steel than the 150s. I can see how people are frustrated with the Grizzly broadheads if they are using files or regular sharpening systems to get the intial bevel down.

Additionally the Grizzly El Grande has a really rough Tanto tip whereas the Abowyer Brown Bear has a nearly finished one. To get steel adaptors to fit into the Abowyer and Grizzly I had to turn down the adaptors with my drill press and a file. They must be 5/16" ferrules and it seems all the steel adaptors are 11/32".

In the end if time is critical to you, the Abowyer Brown Bear may be cheaper than working on the Grizzly El Grande. However with some basic power tools (or really good files) and some time, the Grizzly's are great heads.

JimB · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2009, 10:48:00 AM »

If I were using wood,I would definitely have one of those point loading jigs.that is a slick tool.

I just had Ron at KME do the Ashby modification and sharpen some 190 Grizzly El Grandes form me.I don't have them in hand yet but understand they came out to an average of 175 grs and are scary sharp.

The price is very reasonable and service is fast.

Since you shoot RW fletch,this seems like a good option,coupled with the point loading jig for your woods or heavy steel adaptors and brass inserts for carbons.

Jack Skinner · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Ken

I have been playing with front loading jig that Slowbow spoke of and with your mid 70lb bow you could easly shoot 190griz with 100grain front load brass or nail getting 300gr total then using dougfir, or best ash arrows getting 750-800gr total shaft weight. That there is great big game medicine.

Steve H. · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2009, 11:30:00 AM »

What "is" a "point loading jig"?


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