Group size at 110 yards?

[bawana bowman]

Yeah, This confirms why I've never shot a cable gun.
Found this question while looking on AT as I was headed for the classifieds.
Can't believe there are actually people out there that worry about things like if shooting 12-13" groups at 110 yards is acceptable.
If I were going to take a shot at that distance...
I wouldn't.

[ChuckC]

That to me is part of the problem with technology.  I got sucked into the whole compound thing years ago...  "use technology to help you shoot better.  It is more humane,  better cleaner kills.  better for the critter"  

Then we take a real killing machine for 20 - 30 yard shots and we go and push it to 60 - 70 or more yards (and now 110).  All of a sudden it is not a killer any more.  Especially if you didn't have a range finder.

Nope.  We as a species are too competitive.  We have to go faster, higher better.  Do it with more style etc etc.   and especially do it easier....

ChuckC

[tradtusker]

i can hit a barn at 110yards     .. occasionally

[robtattoo]

Dayum!
At 110 yards I coudn't hit a cow's a$$ with a banjo! I'd be lucky to hit the sky if I shot straight up at 110   :eek:    :eek:

[caleb7mm]

removed by me..............

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

I saw that thread. It was on the General Archery forum, not the Bowhunting forum. Nowhere on that thread did anyone mention bowhunting or shooting at animals. So I'm a little confused as to how that thread spawned this one.

With respect to shooting 100 yards:

Before field archery (shots out to 80 yards) became popular during the middle of the last century (i.e. long before compounds), the standard target round was the York Round.

144 arrows: 72 @ 100 yards, 48 @ 80 yards, 24 @ 60 yards.

Folks in this country were shooting York Rounds back in the 1800's and early 1900's with selfbows and wood arrows, which I suppose were high tech for the day. Saxton Pope even mentions York Rounds it in his book, including scores for himself, Young, and Ishi.

It's somewhat ironic that our recurves, longbows and synthetic arrows are a lot better than what folks used 100 years ago, yet we as a group think shooting anything (including targets) past 20 or 30 yards is something to be shunned. Shooting targets at 100 yards isn’t a “cable gun” thing. It’s an archery thing – one that’s been around a lot longer than any of us has been alive.

[caleb7mm]

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[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Caleb,

What you describe in your thread is not what the original poster read on AT and brought up here...so it was not what I was addressing. I thought I was rather clear about that. Perhaps I wasn't. Furthermore, when I wrote "we as a group," it was in the general sense. If you read my post, you'd also know that the remainder of that sentence is not an opinion I happen to share.

[SteveB]

Shooting targets at 100 yards isn’t a “cable gun” thing. It’s an archery thing – one that’s been around a lot longer than any of us has been alive.  

   

[GMMAT]

It is the respectful hunter who resists interjecting his own, personal limitations into another's ethics. - Me

[D. Devall]

lol. not a prollem for me. i cant even find a place to shoot more than 40 yards.

[Grey Taylor]

At the archery range in CA set up for the '84 Olympics I can get back to 90M. Whenever I'm at that range I can't resist shooting from that far back for at least a couple rounds. The challenge of hitting the target and the beauty of seeing my arrows fly through the sky for an appreciable amount of time makes it a very worthwhile event.
For you guys horrified at this, try envisioning the target as a French knight instead of a deer and maybe you'll see it better.

Guy

[KSdan]

Interesting discussion. . .

In addition to standard target archery shooting those longer shots (which replicated military skills), Howard Hill took game at over 100 yds.  Not to mention the many we consider legends who took running shots at long ranges.  I remember watching Ben Pearson and crew shooting at Catalina goats running at 40+ yds.    

I understand the ethical concerns, but it also goes to show that in certain eras and societies- they worked much harder and longer at their craft.  What we do as hobby was life to them.  

Perhaps our lack of proficiency should not be the ethical standard.

[caleb7mm]

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[elkbreath]

You ever shot an arrow 110 yards?  Its a flat out blast.  Even addicting.   watchin that arrow move like that, and sometimes even hitting your target, what a thrill!

[UKarcher]

Back in England, I used to shoot York, Windsor, National rounds etc, with an ELB. It was fun and a great social event. There were two distinct groups shooting. Those of us who occasionally got one on the target but had a laugh looking for arrows in the grass, and the other group who occasionally dropped one in the grass.
Even more fun is clout archery where you shoot at a flag 180yds away. Watching all those arrows fly is quite a sight.
There are lots of different types of archery aside from hunting and 3D, and as Jason mentioned the original thread was on a general archery forum. We have to remember that we are not the only archers around.

[Ben Maher]

i love shooting long distance ...whether it be stumps , targets , or 3D. 100yards shots let me watch my arrows fly .......
Ben

[Oregon Okie]

We have our annual shoot coming up this weekend. On saturday.. along with a few novelties we shoot the battle clout and the wand. Clout is 180 yard shot simulating the ole' "over the castle wall" and aiming for a target stake. The wand 2 inch wide by 6 foot tall "castle window". (i'm sure alot of you know that)  they are a hoot because, as mentioned it is just fun to shoot and watch an arrow go that far.
Then we do the 3-D on Sunday.. more realistic hunting shots.
Don't know why that adds to this thread but it's fun to shoot arrows a long ways... just not at animals  

[vtmtnman]

Perhaphs the guy was practicing longer than what he normally shoots?


I like to shoot 40 yards in practice,but limit myself to 20 yards.40 makes 20 a LOT easier.  

[wollelybugger]

I thought the range on the Olympics was 30, 60, 90, 120 meters. There was a shot at the archery shop I shot at and they were hitting the furthest target with recurve and compound. That tournament had been running for 90 years straight, way before all this new tech. stuff.