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B M A
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Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 06:37:00 PM »
Looking to see what glue guys are using to glue in Brass inserts? Brand name, type etc. Also curious as to how you prep the insert and shaft.
Have had an issue with them pulling out in targets..... Between myself and a few friends we have used a few different glues trying to find the fix. Still looking for a better glue.
Any advise, information and help is much appreciated.
Thank you,
Brock
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wtpops
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 06:41:00 PM »
JB Weld. (but you wont get it back out)
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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Reply #2 on:
August 06, 2009, 06:41:00 PM »
I clean the shaft with acetone and a wire brush, then glue them with JB weld (not the five minute stuff) I have yet to loose an insert since I started doing it this way!
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azhunter
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 06:49:00 PM »
Clean with acetone and use Devcon 2 ton epoxy also works well.
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Schafer
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 06:50:00 PM »
Super Glue!
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 06:51:00 PM »
I've had mixed results with Devcon epoxy, maybe should try JB Weld?
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DesertDude
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 07:06:00 PM »
.243 gun brush to ruff up the inside.
Q-Tip with acetone
220 grit to ruff up the insert
glue with Gorilla super glue impact tough formula.
So far no pulled inserts......
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 07:11:00 PM »
Super glue.
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Matt D.
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 07:12:00 PM »
Another vote for Gorilla glue. I haven't lost a brass insert with it yet. You can also heat in water to remove inserts for tuning.
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 07:28:00 PM »
I had some Gold Tips with the same issue. I sand papered the insert, this inside of the shaft and epoxied them in with 90 minute epoxy. The key is letting them dry overnight. No more pop outs after that.
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 07:44:00 PM »
Watch out for the gorilla glue. That's what I used on my last arrows. Got one that I didn't push in fast enough and now the inserts is 1/8" out. Try as I might can't get it loose to push it in all the way.
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 06, 2009, 09:07:00 PM »
This is what I have been doing
Inserts
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dino
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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Reply #12 on:
August 06, 2009, 09:13:00 PM »
Easton 24 hr epoxy or jb weld. Two best that I have experienced. dino
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B M A
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 12:22:00 AM »
Thank you everyone. Lots of help, different ideas on glue.
Brock
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7eyes
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 12:53:00 AM »
Nail them in with liquid nails or any quality construction adhesive. Sold in a caulking tube and will glue 10,000 inserts, but it is cheap and will never come out. Nicety stuff.
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Whitetail Chaser
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »
1. Sandpaper the insert and the inside of the shaft
2. Clean with 90% isopropyl alcohol on q-tip
3. Glue with Goat-Tuff, let dry 12 hours
4. Never worry about losing an insert
Brett
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 12:35:00 PM »
super glue gel
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 12:42:00 PM »
If you use epoxy, try 24 hour and then set them under a quartz lamp. You want to get them pretty warm, too hot to touch. I find that epoxy set this way is much stronger and doesn't come out sticky. It only takes about 10 to 15 minutes (sometimes only 5 minutes) to completely set the glue and it will be pretty hard to the touch right away. The 24 hour glue gives you plenty of time to work with before you put the heat to it. I've been gluing sinew on the back of self bows this way. It is real strong. In fact this is how a lot of the bow manufactures glue up their limbs.
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 01:25:00 PM »
1. Carbon prep tool (or brush as stated by others)to roughen up the inside of the carbon shaft.
2. Clean brass for coatings & inside of shaft w/ alcohol pad
3. Goat-Tuff (there is a release agent for this product too should you need to take it apart - also a "swing hammer works - heat & carbons is risky)
Good luck, lots of good methods discussed here.
BobW
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Re: Glue for Brass inserts
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August 07, 2009, 01:27:00 PM »
dang Brett, I started writing this, and got interrupted part way through. Once I got back, 6 more posts, including yours..... oh well, sorry for the repeat.
BobW
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