Author Topic: Identify these oaks? (Read 855 times)

Apex Predator · « **on:** August 20, 2009, 07:58:00 AM »

These are shrubs, but some species of oak. They are only knee high, but loaded with acorns. What can you folks tell me about them? Good mast for deer? They look like they will mature and drop before all others on the property I'm hunting. I'm in SE Ga.

Herdbull · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2009, 08:31:00 AM »

Are they sawtooth oak?

OkKeith · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2009, 08:45:00 AM »

Apex,

Looks like you may actually have several different species going on there. Just a quick turn through my Trees of SE US, I can see how the second photo could be a Laurel Oak. These get pretty good size but will make acorns in their second year. First photo looks like something in the neighborhood of a Sand Live Oak, maybe a Myrtle Oak.

Based on the ecoregion of these particular trees, I would say that this area is moderatly coastal with regions of poorly drained soil, but this site is a lot sandier than others around it so remains a little drier.

Good looking area.

OkKeith

Richie Nell · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2009, 09:35:00 AM »

Sand live Oak in first photo and Willow or Laurel Oak in second. These trees are probably fairly young sprouts from older root systems. It apppears a pretty hot fire knocked back the hardwood species in the recent past.

Apex Predator · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2009, 09:45:00 AM »

Thanks guys! Yes these are two different species. This area gets burned routinely, as part of the land management strategy.

newtradgreenwood · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:38:00 AM »

Possible myrtle & willow oak, by leaves. The acorns on one of them look like overcup oak, but the leaves do not match. Sprouts and shaded seedling/saplings sometimes have different leaf shapes than mature trees.

Upland or bottomland area ? SE, what state and what part of the state ?

The Audubon Society Field Guide to North america Trees is a suggested user friendly reference. Or the Peterson Field Guides for eastern trees.

Cut a branch or two off of each and take down to your local state dept. of conservation, or Natural Resource Conservation Service office.

Apex Predator · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2009, 11:12:00 AM »

Bottom land bordering a cyprus swamp in SE Georgia.

newtradgreenwood · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2009, 01:35:00 PM »

Based on geographic location I retract willow oak & go with live oak.

Killdeer · « **Reply #8 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:23:00 PM »

Acorns look too big for willow oak.
So many oaks, so little time!

Killdeer

geno · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Killdeer:
Acorns look too big for willow oak.
So many oaks, so little time!

Killdeer

Dax · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »

I'd say water oak on the top one...as for the bottom one, perhaps a live oak...not for sure.

Richie Nell · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:56:00 PM »

The top tree has the revolute edges, leathery textured leaves and the acorns are on stems. That would rule out water oak. I think it is either a sand live oak or live oak.
In the bottom photo...the only two oak trees I know with the significantly long and narrow leaves is the willow oak and the running oak.
I think it is the running oak. It only grows low to the ground running along sprouting from roots. It is also found amongst the live and sand live oak species.
Several different oak species will have narrow leaves when young but they won't have fruit at the same time. So that narrow leaf is the typical shape for that species.
Sorry to bore you.

Kingwouldbe · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2009, 12:03:00 AM »

There HUNT'UM oaks for sure, I just checked the book.

lol

DC · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2009, 02:01:00 AM »

Are you near salt water? The first picture appears to be myrtle oak and the second could be chapman oak which is usually encountered as a large, bushy shrub and it resembles certain of the willow oaks.

Paul Mattson · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2009, 06:48:00 AM »

http://www.mckaynursery.com/catalogsearch.asp

Q. bicolor SWAMP WHITE OAK

Q. macrocarpa BUR OAK

Q. palustris PIN OAK

Q. rubra NORTHERN RED OAK

Quercus x warei ’Long’ REGAL PRINCE OAK

Apex Predator · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2009, 09:50:00 AM »

On another board they have been identified as bluejack oak and willow oak. Beats me! I'll let you know if the deer hit them.

Richie Nell · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:12:00 AM »

The long peduncles or stems the acorns are on make it definetly not blue jack. The cup is too deep on the bottom photo to be willow oak. Willow cups are flat like saucers. It may actually be an Olgelthorpe Oak which is in GA although I have never seen one to know.

Dax · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2009, 10:12:00 PM »

Richie...not a bore, good info. This is an interesting thread. I like Kingwouldbe's post, lol. Killdeer's too.

Liquid Amber · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2009, 04:06:00 AM »

I'd guess sand live oak and laurel oak. These, along with myrtle oak and Chapman's oak are the typical scrub oak communities in that part of the country.

Neither is Oglethorpe oak.

Richie Nell · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:44:00 AM »

I believe Laurel Oak would have a much shallower cup than the bottom photo. Good to know it is not Oglethorpe Oak. Now I know what it does not look like.


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