My wife and I have been watching a group of 7 bucks coming out to feed in the fields hour to an hour and half almost every night for two weeks now, as of last night they all were still in velvet,heading out in an hour two watch for them to come out tonight,we will post if any velvet is rubbed off! we are watching them from over 400 yards away, one is a dandy for these parts!! I have permission to hunt the land that borders the back of these fields, but i don't feel worthy to hunt such an animal as i haven't learned to control buck fever yet!!LOL