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Author Topic: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.  (Read 1744 times)

Offline SteveB

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2009, 01:57:00 PM »
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I'm glad deer can't read...  :D  
 
My favorite post right there   :biglaugh:

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »
Man, you guys and gals are great!
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2009, 02:24:00 PM »
I think it all depends on the color of the turbulator.    :D

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2009, 02:27:00 PM »
Jason.....and my 'flight record' for GA whitetails since 1985 with Zwickey Delta 4 blades is STILL under 40 yards!!!!!   :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2009, 02:29:00 PM »
Terry...Yes, but you mount them vertically so they slip between the ribs.   :saywhat:

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2009, 02:32:00 PM »
:biglaugh:    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2009, 02:33:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Widowbender:
I'm glad deer can't read...    :D  
I'm sometimes sad that I can.   :saywhat:
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2009, 02:34:00 PM »
Tom....

 
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2009, 02:54:00 PM »
Oh no Jason! Not the "T" word!!!
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2009, 03:25:00 PM »
It's no joke, Biggie. This is serious business. If you ever mess up and hit a deer in the gizzard you'll wish you had one.   :readit:

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2009, 04:45:00 PM »
Robtattoo, neither. It will squirt out the sides, like stepping on a packet of mustard.

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »
thanks to this thread, someone now owes me a new keyboard.....  and my nostrils are hurting from the rapid exit of coffee.
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2009, 08:40:00 PM »
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Originally posted by robtattoo:
If I'm on a spaceship, travelling 1 mile an hour faster than the speed of light & I turn on the headlights, will the light shine out the front or the back?

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Now this is a REAL test question.
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2009, 08:49:00 PM »
Anybody got this figgered out yet??...Huntin' seasons almost here and I need to know which of my arrow to put the broadhead on....
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2009, 11:52:00 PM »
FYI...already been down that road. When I used to shoot 3d with compounds back 10-12 years ago we tested everything imaginable fletching drag, vanes vs. feathers,etc. etc. Also tested arrows that were 5% FOC vs ones that were 20% FOC...These arrows had same impact point out to fifty yards. The reason for the test was because people were saying you could only use about 12 to 15 % FOC, any more would cause the arrow to nose dive. That's a big part of the reason they were pushing the 85 and 100 grain broadheads for carbon arrows was to keep the FOC down under 12%. That was a load of bull then and its a load of bull now. Just because we have fun with it doesn't mean that we haven't given any thought to the process or tested things out. I don't take to the woods with anything that I haven't given full thought and consideration to. For the record I shoot a carbon arrow with a 125 grain adapter and 125 grain glue on woodsman for and FOC of 23%. Does it fly like a dart? No, it flies like an arrow. Is it the perfect arrow? Only when its bloody from one end to the other...    :D    :D    :D
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #76 on: September 02, 2009, 09:12:00 AM »
I still think my idea of a sliding weight inside an aluminum shaft is the perfect solution for the test method. Same arrow, different FOC. No other variables to deal with. All the way forward gives maximum FOC, stuck in the middle or thereabouts gives minimum, much easier than trying to build two matched arrows with different FOC's.
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #77 on: September 02, 2009, 09:19:00 AM »
I agree with Jeremy!
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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #78 on: September 02, 2009, 09:24:00 AM »
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I still think my idea of a sliding weight inside an aluminum shaft is the perfect solution for the test method. Same arrow, different FOC. No other variables to deal with. All the way forward gives maximum FOC, stuck in the middle or thereabouts gives minimum, much easier than trying to build two matched arrows with different FOC's.
By changing the length of shaft behind the weight (i.e. sliding the weight within the shaft) you will be changing the dynamic spine. This would change the tuning, thereby effecting arrow flight and nullifying the test.

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Re: Theory, you can guess but it must be tested.
« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2009, 10:00:00 AM »
Okay guys. Stop having fun. Let's turn this into work!

I'm sure everyone here is interested in finding out the result of George's testing, but can't we enjoy ourselves a little along the way? Having fun on this site while learning from others seems to be the charm of our little community.   :campfire:    :campfire:

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