No not me. A buddy of mine I got into trad about 2months ago. He was already a heck of a bow shot, sold him a widow I had, in no time he was shooting great out to 25yds or a little more. Thursday he bought a Martin Savanah, #55 off another bud of mine, he had shot the bow once before, shot it better than the widow. He got a shot tonight at 10 steps, drilled a big doe, ran 40 yds and rolled over a bank head over heels another 40, DOA! This was his first trad kill and he was stoked. Now this man has 3 P&Y deer on his wall, all with a bow, but was as excited about this as if it was a big buck. Laughing like a kid at Christmas. I was tickled for him, just wanted to share with you all. He gets on here every day and looks around, maybe he will chime in. He is now a firm believer in Wensell Woodsmans and is glad he sold his Matthews wheelie bow. As he told me, everything is new again.