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Author Topic: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"  (Read 901 times)

Offline sticshooter

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OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« on: September 22, 2009, 12:40:00 PM »
OK I just got a TD longbow 45@28"-62" from a member on here. And I gotta say FANTASTIC bow. Shoots awesome and I have not been able to shoot alot for over a year. I draw 30" so it should be pulling 51# but it does not feel that heavy and feel no stack at all with the bow. I am shooting 5575 goldtips out of it and weigh in at 525gr. I am getting 174fps 7 out of ten shot on the crono. Been awhile since I did this and wanna see if that is a good speed? I am not a speed demon but kinda like to know what others think. I am stacking arrows with it at my hunting range so i am pumped.thanks for the help.<><
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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 12:45:00 PM »
That's not good, that's great.  You are utilizing that wonderful thing called powerstroke.  You are two feet per second off 120 miles per hour.  Do you think that will work?
You are stacking arrows, so whatever you do, don't change anything.  Please.

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 12:45:00 PM »
You will probably be around 160 fps at 28 inches.  If it's a mild R/D, then that is probably average speed.  

Is it enough?  Certainly!
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 12:52:00 PM »
Sounds good to me! I recently teased a few more fps out of my Bob Lee TD Longbow by going to a much shorter(3") fletching on my arrows. They fly perfectly, and average about 10fps faster than with the 5" I was using before. Not as pretty, though.....

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 12:53:00 PM »
2 feet per second off 120mph????
That would be.......?

A turbulater would make up that 2 feet I think.
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 01:10:00 PM »
Good Grief, that is smoking!!!  45 pounds, 525 grain arrow, that is 11.6 grains per pound of draw weight.  YOu are getting 174 fps out of it!!

I think that is incredible!  You have .40 slug feet per pound of momentum, and 35.28 pounds of Kentic energy!  That is a lot of preformance for a traditional bow at 45 pounds in my opinion.

Is it quiet?

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Offline ishoot4thrills

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 01:25:00 PM »
It's very good speed. But, Bob B., he's shooting 51 lbs. at his 30" draw, not 45 lbs.   :)
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Offline fireball31

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »
That is definitly plenty of speed.

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 01:47:00 PM »
OOPS, thanks for correcting me.  Still good speed, I did miss that draw length.

Thanks.
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Offline sticshooter

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 02:05:00 PM »
Ok thanks guys. I thought is was ok. With my elbows being as bad as they are I am finding that draw weight to be great when I shoot alot. And I trimmed the bowhush down and she is super quiet.And no hand shock at all. Lewis made me a TD longbow that was the best I had shot but hey lewy this one is coming real close LOL.Yeah I kinda like this bow...... ALOT   :bigsmyl:   .<><
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 02:17:00 PM »
For a selfbow I consider 100 fps plus draw weight to be good speed, so at your draw 151 fps. With a heavy arrow, that's deadly.   :D
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 02:32:00 PM »
Psssssssst (hay what kind of bow is it?  You can PM me.)  :D
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Offline Lewis Brookshire III

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 02:34:00 PM »
Your hurting my feelings!! LOL
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 02:51:00 PM »
My dad always told me

"There's no replacement for displacement"

That certainly holds true in the world of projectiles-mass is for more desireable than excessive speed.  
Now, there is a point where too much mass can become detrimental, but this can easily be calculated.  find a good muzzle energy calculator- and plug in some figures.   It will get you close.

Game can certainly react to/and sometimes successfully dodge projectiles, so set yourself up for the distances you generally hunt.  
Naturally, you are gonna want more speed at longer distances, but I'm finding that 30 yds is a moderate to long distance with my shooting ability.  So if my arrow is traveling a mere 150 fps- the arrow will get there in under a second.
Keep in mind that mass will also help to maintain your speed.
I am certainly no authority-but if you are looking to bump up speed, try to get it from the bow setup-maybe a string with less strands.  If your arrows  are tuned well, you could sacrifice fletch length, height, number-but I would not expect much from this-as it only reduces drag, not really weight.
Looks like you have plenty of energy to do the job  though, and make sure the business end of that projectile is plenty sharp.


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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 03:21:00 PM »
Yeah at 174fps I feel good about it. I been shooting it off and on all day. I just shoot it so good I am GIDDY! I have a 175gr tip on it and it flies like a dart. Lewis sorry bro but the bow you gave me is still a awesome shooter. this bow was made by Jorneyman bows from MI?. I'll post a pic tonight. thanks all for the info.<><
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »
I shot a Journeyman bow last week.  It was about 48@28 if I recall.  It was not particularly flashy looking, but it was fast.  I didn’t have any problem shooting it well.  I shot the same arrow out of four different TD LB's between 47 and 49.  I would say it was the fastest.  The price was right from what I was told.  I put it on my short list of affordable TD LB’s.  I have to say thought that my 45@28 lost creek all osage was holding its own with the heavier longer boo core TD LB’s.
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Offline Lewis Brookshire III

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 04:02:00 PM »
Im just kidding with ya Frank. Did You get another Bodork bow??
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 05:08:00 PM »
No  got this bow from him. But it was a bow swap he was in last year. this one is all Bocote and is getting set on antler limb bolts. I had a set of weathered burrs sitting here for over a year waiting for a bow. One has a sticker on it and this is it.I gotta get a pic. The reiser is kinda like a recurve riser. and fits like a glove.<><
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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 05:36:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
2 feet per second off 120mph????
That would be.......?

A turbulater would make up that 2 feet I think.
I think that would depened on whether he was shooting with or against the Earth's rotation.   ;)

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Re: OPINIONS ON SPEED "PICS ADDED"
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 05:59:00 PM »
ok heres some pics.i am really liking this bow.<><
 
 
 
 
 
 
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