They still torque through but as i mention in another thread i would use the small width ones on anything bigger than whitetails, its a vary wide head an cutting a lot of meat. The 10pter i shot through the hams you could see the rotation in the wound canal i could put 3 fingers in the slice. This shot was due to a deflection from a unseen twig. Perfect hits no problems i`m shore, but things happen when hunting. I do luv the blade quality in these heads an plan on using them alot. Check out the other thread...Good heads