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Offline dick sable

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"woodyweights"
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:32:00 PM »
Can anyone offer opinions from experience using "woodyweights" on your wood shafts?  I have a bunch of fairly nice wood arrows that I made up when I apparently knew even less than I do now about spine and shart length, etc.  The result was a lot of way over-spined arrows for my bows.  Wouldn't the increased foc weaken the spine and perhaps make them functional for me? Not sure how much the weight difference would make with the cedar, fir and ash arrows. Any tips?

Offline Highlandwarrior

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »
If you go with the real heavy ones it would get  you both a weaker spine and high Foc which you need both of. problem is you have to get used to the funny look of them and you need to use a lot of glue to keep them on

Offline centaur

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 02:51:00 PM »
I love them. I'm using 125 grain along with 125 grain heads, and I get really good arrow flight and better penetration. Give them a try.
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Offline ErikT

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »
Very good product, well made and provides a great front-end struture for your bh.  You will have to factor in the weight of the bh you intend to use and think about how the combined weight with the ww will affect the spine of your arrows.
Using ww's allows you to shoot a heavier arrow with a spine that is much stiffer than you would otherwise shoot.

I recommend installing bh's with JB Weld. I've had poor luck using hot melt.
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Offline StickBowManMI

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »
Thanks Eric, I was just about to ask what glue to use bevause I have had trouble keeping them on with Hot Melt. I'll give the JB Weld a try!

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »
Sorry for the hijack---but wouldn't JB weld ruin the chances of re-using a broadhead in the event of a broken shaft?
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Offline Canyon

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 11:48:00 PM »
I have just started using them and am very happy. The alignment issues some have concerns about have been nonexistent.
I ground the 75 grain weights down to 50 grains and put them with a Magnus I 4 blade to make a nasty 200 grain head.
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Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2009, 11:04:00 AM »
Unlike a broadhead adapter, the Woody Weights are smooth...if you clean them thoroughly and rough them up good prior to adding your point the hot melt adheres much better.

Those rings are on broadhead adapters for a reason.   :D
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Offline 2treks

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2009, 02:11:00 PM »
Hi Dick,
I used the woodies on some arrows this year, I had no problems with any alignment or hot melt issues. CLEAN WELL AND LOTS OF GOOD CLEAN HEAT WORKS EVERYTIME. Mike Deppe Is a stand up guy and his invention gives a shooter lots of options to use when tuning arrows,wood or otherwise. I put them into an old broadhead I wanted to use and then mounted onto a steel adapter. It was longer than I was used to seeing on my tip but I shot my target from all angles and then I went to a hexhead and went stumping to see about bending problems. I had NO problems. I think with a wood arrow and your choice of head, you can really build a great flying arrow, with all kinds of EFOC.
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Offline Rob DiStefano

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2009, 02:48:00 PM »
i like using the braveheart archery internal footing jig - works great, cheap, and also makes the arrow shaft way less likely to break off behind the point.
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Offline Bowferd

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 07:20:00 PM »
I haven't ordered the Braveheart footing jig yet but do plan on purchasing one.
I have used 100 gr  woodyweights and must say I've been impressed. No problem with the hot melt and I just roughed up w/50 grit sandpaper and cleaned with Isopropyl alcohol.
 I'm shooting 60-65 and 70-75 supercedars at 31", 100 gr. ww's and both 190 Tuskers and Grizzly single bevel.
Recently switched bows and may have to make some alterations.
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 08:18:00 PM »
everyone that's tried my bh footed woodies loves 'em, and watching me install 'em cinches it - too easy.  

woodyweights are just front end weights, whereas the bh footed woodies are actual arrow shaft strengthening footings that can add some goodly front end weight and increase foc.  try the bh foot woodi jig!
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2009, 08:24:00 PM »
How hard is it to get 150-200 grains with that jig Rob?
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2009, 08:47:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Two Tracks:
How hard is it to get 150-200 grains with that jig Rob?
i never drilled in deeper than 3" and that netted me near 100 grains with a steel nail.  with a 6" bit, careful drilling, and loading with fat lead solder, that should be darned close to 200 grains i'd think.
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 08:51:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
 
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Originally posted by Two Tracks:
How hard is it to get 150-200 grains with that jig Rob?
i never drilled in deeper than 3" and that netted me near 100 grains with a steel nail.  with a 6" bit, careful drilling, and loading with fat lead solder, that should be darned close to 200 grains i'd think. [/b]
Do you have a tutorial here somewhere? That sounds pretty slick.
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Offline steadman

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 08:53:00 PM »
I've used both and the woody weight are good, but as stated above the internal footing jig is better for me. I, like Rob get 100 grains, then use 160 or 190 grain point up front.
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »
How does the internal footing effect spine?
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2009, 09:31:00 PM »
Rob, you've convinced me. I'm going to have to get in touch with Tim.
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Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2009, 11:34:00 PM »
I'm glad you all are liking your jigs!   :thumbsup:   I didn't mention them initially since the original question was in regard to Woody Weights.

Those of you who are waiting to pull the trigger on an Internal Point Jig, be forewarned due to circumstances beyond our control there will be a price increase in a few days...now would be a good time to buy.   :D  

Getting much more than 100 grains with the Internal Point Jig is not easy, like Steadman I use the internally loaded arrow with heavy points.
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Re: "woodyweights"
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2009, 06:43:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
How does the internal footing effect spine?
for me, absolutely no effect at all.  ymmv.
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