By the way if you go there, take some of that preservative that you inject into velvet antlers, or they will strip the velvet on your bulls. They may have some of that in camp now, but be sure to ask them. They stripped the velvet on my first bull and when I got it mounted, I had to have the artificial velvet put on it. I killed the second bull late enough in the hunt that I was able to leave the velvet on to get the bull home and then had it freeze dried for the mount. The artificial velvet looks good, but the real thing looks even better. If you want to mount your bulls in hard horn, then obviously you don't have to worry about that!