Drop Back and Punt!

[Ragnarok Forge]

Mountain Boy.  Shoot what works for ya and definately use what works to provide you with confidence.  


Me, I am fiddler and finding out that Carbons can be a pain to get right.  I am shooting a 55 lb modern longbow and 550 spine arrows don't come long enough for me to get them to tune without 400 grains up front which makes em heavier than I want.  Great FOC and penetrate like no ones business, just slower than I want.  

My reccomendation is shoot what is working for you and do your fiddling with the Carbons on the side.  That way it won't matter how well the Carbons work.  Once you get it all together you can make the switch if you want.

[joe skipp]

As a Trad shop owner, I will make suggestions based on my experience BUT I leave the final decision up to the customer. I want him happy....

Tinkering and playing around with different types of arrow materials, feather shapes/sizes and experimenting with different broadheads is part of the fun of archery. For me personally, once I found the right combination of bow/arrow/broadhead
I stayed with it for years. I seen no reason to change.

Until a few yrs ago, I shot barrel tapered ash. I now shoot aluminum and carbon. When I decided to strictly hunt from the ground, I changed my camo pattern to match my hunting areas. Your goal is to enjoy the sport, fill the freezer but have fun doing it.

If getting back to basics is what you think you need to do...then do it. From shooting wood, to taking extra safety precautions or just wearing plaid clothing instead of camo...make the move and start having fun again.

[Irish Archer]

Hackbow,

I gotta say, you make a solid point there....yep.......solid.  

[Rob DiStefano]

one man's ceiling is another man's floor.

please do offer me opinions, considerations and advice.  that's how i can learn, that's how you can share.  and in the end, i get to make the decision as to what path i'll attempt.

please show me the truth, the facts - if there are any.  that kinda knowledge outshines all the rhetoric.

but above all, don't tell me your way is the right way or the best way or the only way - that's pure hogwash.

fortunately, i believe that hogwash is hard to find at trad gang.

[onewhohasfun]

Mountainboy if you are throwing out those carbons I'll take them. Stump shooting is all I do and I'm very hard on arrows. I shot almost every day last yr. and never damaged an alum footed Gold Tip, too many frontal impacts with rocks to count, I destroyed 9 judos. Killed 2 deer with tough angled shots, same arrow both deer, back in quiver absolutely no damage. I can't afford to shoot alum. or wood $$$$. If you are having trouble getting your carbons to fly please let us help you. We have at least 6 months. Tom

[ishoot4thrills]

Well said Hackbow. Well said Rob. I totally agree.

[greenie]

I believe it's humane nature to complicate anything we touch. Everyday just trying to live a simple life gets more compicated.

[Mountainboy]

I tell ya what!  All you guys are just plain awesome!  Good straight forward advice/no beating around the bush! A good brotherhood!

[GANDGOLF]

There's an ooolllddd Russian Proverb----
Better is THE ENEMY of GOOD ENOUGH!!!!  

[Bill Carlsen]

I've been at this as long as George and Rob. There really is nothing simple about archery if you look real close. I've tried a lot of things over the years and don't consider myself "finished" as an archer, bow hunter or human being. Every time something new comes out I need to know about it or ask about it or try it. One never stops learning and just when I think I have discovered the "best" I turn around and there is something better. That makes it fun for me....it's the learning and playing with stuff and  not settleing for the status quo.

[Bruce Martin]

My biggest problem is kind of liking it all. I own several glass bows, recurve and longbows. And, I have a great time when not hunting making wood bows. Various lengths, weights, etc. Finding what shoots out of these various implements is a real challenge but one that has taught me a lot. I have not done anything that hasn't been done before and in many cases, better. But I enjoy the process. Heck, it even enjoy serving a string well. When it comes to hunting, I have some standard requirements that don't change: well tuned arrows with nocks that are not too tigt on the string, decent if not heavy overall weight (10-11 gpp) and very sharp cut on contact heads that fly right. A heavy enough bow that I can consistently control. The rest of it is concentrating and practicing on putting it in the right place. So, it is simple but also complex in the possibilities all of which can be designed to work very well.

[redfish]

Simple is better...and more fun.

[lpcjon2]

isn't the basics the definition of traditional?

[trashwood]

what ever yanks your string is ok with me.  shoot it like you like it......but archery was not simple when archery was simple.      

there have been techies and non-techies since i shot my first field round in the 1950's.  as a matter of fact they even fussed at each other then.  In 1960 I saw a fist fight between a techy and a non-techy on the field range over scores.  

at 66 yrs old I guess I am Geroge's antipahty (although I certainly consider him a friend    ).  for me stingwalking, techy risers, vee bars, long rods, flippers and plunger are good things.  yep even use many of the gadets on a hunting bows now and then.

if you want it simple, i am for ya. just leave a little space for me to shoot in.....and when we add up the socre I don't want no fist fights please    

rusty -non-tradtional recurve  shooter- craine

[frank bullitt]

I'm all for SIMPLE! Life is complicated enough!

I'm just thankful I live where there is choices.

Good shootin, Steve.

[LC]

"Never drag a extension ladder out  when a simple snowball will do" Funny story just this evening. We've been getting hammered here with deep snows and cold temps. Decided to take the evening to grab my "old" neighbor and drive down and spend the evening with a "old" muzzleloader making neighbor. Spent all evening with him and left simply amazed how simple everything in his life is to making a muzzleloader. He's the same guy who taught me knife making and gives me curly maple scraps for making bows, knives etc. Anyhow to make a long story short I was telling my neighbor on the way home "you know what, I'm gona make a complete effort to find the simplest way to do everything in my life as my new years resolution"! So we get to his house and his wife informs us her satitlite internet isn't working.Now keep in mind these folks are the most techno challegened folks I know and my neighbor himself has never ever been on the internet. I explain it's because of the heavy uneven snow fall on the dish and tell my neighbor lets get a ladder so I can climb his steep metal roof and sweep the snow off it. All the time thinking this is gona be dangerous. He came out looked at it, grabbed a snowball and in one throw hit the satitlite and knocked the snow off! So much for my new years resoultion! Life is simple we make it tuff!

[luv2bowhunt]

Good story LC  :D

[dan ferguson]

Archery is a circle, for some we are at 1/4 circle, some are at 1/2, even a few make it to 3/4, A full circle is perfection and I have not yet met someone there, all the gismos along the line in the circle just help to make it. The real challenge in making the circle is are we still having fun. Happy New Years to everyone.