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Author Topic: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound  (Read 2376 times)

Offline Bill Kissner

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2010, 08:31:00 PM »
I have a jagdterrier and she is very much like what others have said about their teckels in that she is a hunting dog and needs exercise and is protective of her finds. She can also be destructive if not given the attention she wants. I have. been out more money than I will admit repairing her damage.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2010, 07:44:00 PM »
Here's Roscoe, he's great with kids and loves to track. I got him from John, this is his second season.
 

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2010, 10:37:00 PM »
We have one of the Jeanneney's dogs.  Her name is Georgia and she has become the favorite family pet.  She is would sit in you lap all day if you would let her and is great with the kids.  She was the runt of the litter.  Georgia is an unbelievable tracker.  Everyone who sees her work wants to buy her or get one just like her.  If you want a dog that is a good family pet and a great tracker, I would call John Jeanneney.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2010, 06:00:00 AM »
How good would a Beagle be at blood tracking.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2010, 10:09:00 AM »
For those wondering about the Jeanneney's thoughts on the temperament of working teckels, and some of the issues an unprepared owner may face, you might check out the link below.  The last paragraph is exactly the point I'm trying to make.

 http://www.born-to-track.com/dachshund-companion.htm


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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2010, 10:09:00 AM »
My hunting buddy has both breeds, he says terrain and geographic location is a big consideration as both of these breeds are specialists with obvious strengths and weaknnesses.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2010, 11:01:00 AM »
I am thinking of getting a Dachshund for a pet.Would a miniature Dachshund possibly work out as a tracking dog? It would be great to have one as a pet and also be able to use one as a tracking dog should the need ever arise.I know the dog would need to be trained.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2010, 11:09:00 AM »
I have a Half Toy Rat Terrier & Dachshund I found out it's a hybrid breed of dog called Toy rat Doxie. When the weather gets warmer I'm going to take her out to go after tree rats and hopefully wabbits. Now I think I'll look in to getting Her to Blood trail, too..

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2010, 02:21:00 PM »
Might also look at the Jagdterrier. I may be getting me a pup to train also.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2010, 07:23:00 PM »
Junglecat, my smooth hair mini Daschund is an awesome tracker and a great companion dog. Two recoveries this year.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2010, 07:34:00 PM »
wingman,
How old is your dog and was it hard to train? Were either of its parent trained as a tracking dog? Sorry for all the questions.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2010, 08:05:00 PM »
Junglecat, my dog is four. She had her first trail last year, the trail was 18 hours old and she stayed on it for approx. 300 yds after which we lost all blood, we later realized that the deer was not fataly hit. This year she had three trails, two of which ended with dead deer, the one she did not recover was also seen alive later in the season. JC I wish that I could say that I am some sort of great dog trainer but that is just not the case, my dog Penny is just an extremely gamey little hound with an innate abaility to track game, she has had absolutely no training, however that will change this spring as I have a nice collection of hide and blood in my freezer. Her parents where just really sweet companion dogs, actually she doesnt even have a pedigree as her fathers papers burned in a barn fire, so in a sense she's my little mutt. I think with a little polishing up she will be an excellent bloodtrailing dog.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2010, 08:17:00 PM »
Thanks wingman.Your comments actually make me feel better.I presently dont have a dog.I am thinking of getting one.I have actually went as far as to look for pups and have located one today if it hasnt been sold since I received an email from the owner earlier today.Pups are supposed to be available next week. I just have to make my mind up.Any dog I get would mainly be a companion dog as well.Thanks for your help.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2010, 08:23:00 PM »
Awesome buddy, nothing cuter than a baby doxy, enjoy.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2010, 03:57:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Panzer II:
How good would a Beagle be at blood tracking.
My beagle did very well while I was training her.  We don't do much training at all anymore.  Work, family and everything else gets in the way.  Mine had a great nose/instinct.  Only downfall was me and time nothing to do with her.

I am no expert... but I can agree it takes a lot of time to train.  I think that goes with all types of training but my experience has only been in blood trailing.

Now when we only trail every so often she still does very well.

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2010, 07:27:00 AM »
Allegan Archer,

It's great to keep them going with their training...But some dogs don't care about following a trail that you put down.  Tilly pays no attention to the deer blood and hide trails I put down for her pup Cash.  She is 4 1/2 and hasn't been interested in those type of trails for the past couple of years.  

Just take her out into the woods on a fresh deer trail and you better hang on  :)   I've talked to John & Jolanta Jeanneney about this.  They also have some dogs like that.  They aren't any good for trials but Great for hunting...Doc
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2010, 08:34:00 AM »
Here's another question for you tracking dog people.  I'd love a dog that could track deer and also run rabbits on the side.  Is there any way to train the dog so that it can be trusted outside without being on a chain?  Seems like it would be just about impossible to keep them in the yard (and out of the road) if they like to run rabbits.
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2010, 09:11:00 AM »
Maybe some info that will help out:

For mini's, non "hunting" bloodline etc.  There is a guy in Michigan that has found a bunch of deer with his mini-longhaired dachshund.  Search "scouttracker blog" or something like this and you'll find him.

For training - we aren't experts on this for sure, but what is working really well for us is a combination of John's book and our breeder's advice.  Training to blood track wasn't difficult, just took time, dedication, and advice from the above sources to avoid common pitfalls.  Check out the borntotrack.com blog.  Jolanta just posted an entry about our Oskar last week.  Keep in mind that YOUR experience blood trailing without a dog is key as well.  My breeder thinks we are progressing so rapidly with our pup, in part, because of our extensive experience blood tracking without a dog.  (If I only had a dollar for every hour spent on my hands and knees looking for blood over the years..... :)  ).  The dog and handler TEAM is the key to finding deer, ALL the experts agree on that one.

Joe, I'll PM you some new information....

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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2010, 01:17:00 PM »
Joe,  
The Jeanneneys use there Dachshunds to do both.  I have no interest in hunting rabbits...mainly cause we don't have any around here   :(  

The radio shock collars work great to keep them in your yard.  Home Depot as a unit for under $200 that will even keep Tippit (our Border Collie) in the yard!  No tying up or fence involved...Doc
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Re: Wirehaired Dachsund v. Bavarian Bloodhound
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2010, 01:23:00 PM »
So when is Tilly going to be due?  :saywhat:  
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