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Author Topic: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED  (Read 783 times)

Offline fixer

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2010, 12:22:00 AM »
Now that's cool, never saw one before. Thanks!!

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2010, 01:16:00 AM »
deflex reflex , deflex reflex, It is basically acting like a static recurve. If I remember rightly Stan Moore built a Wolverine like that years ago.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2010, 07:15:00 AM »
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Tell you what guys(And gals)...This bow is SMOOTH.I overdrew this bow to about 31-32 and there was NO hint of stack anywhere in the forecast.

Once we got the bow tuned up she was a super shooter and whisper quiet.

I'd love to see what this design would be like with 45-55#'s.
Did it require any special in the way of tuning?
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2010, 07:54:00 AM »
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Originally posted by vtmtnman:
Tell you what guys(And gals)...This bow is SMOOTH.I overdrew this bow to about 31-32 and there was NO hint of stack anywhere in the forecast.

Once we got the bow tuned up she was a super shooter and whisper quiet.

I'd love to see what this design would be like with 45-55#'s.
Did it require any special in the way of tuning? [/b]
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2010, 08:31:00 AM »
The bow shot a much stiffer arrow than one would expect. An Axis 400 full length, footed and with a 200 grain tip was what it seemed to like the best so far. Shooting the arrows the charts say would be good for the bow weight were quite loud from being so under-spined and making bow contact. Also the Bow Hush took the string contact noise away completely. I'm pretty happy with the bow now.
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2010, 11:03:00 PM »
You are looking good, David. Thanks for the pics of the bow. It is interesting but a little strange looking. If you say it shoots nicely, I know it does.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2010, 11:26:00 PM »
Glad to see you coming back so soon David.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2010, 02:00:00 AM »
David,
Didn't know you were laid up!  Glad to hear you are doing well!

That is an interesting design!  Would be interested to see how it compares speed wise with recurves and hybrid longbows at the same draw weight.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2010, 02:21:00 AM »
It worths to take a look at that unusual bow and yes it recall me the Stewars'd Multicam.Thanks for sharing I like this kind of posts with pics.
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2010, 09:29:00 AM »
This bow shoots 204 at AMO. Pretty good for a 35# bow. A couple of changes are being done to the riser to increase the speed as it needs a little more angle in the shoe than the standard curve. I should have a 45# working prototype in a few weeks.

Here are some pics of the new belly mount handles that will be available early February.

 
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2010, 10:21:00 AM »
Look'n good Dave   :thumbsup:    :campfire:    :coffee:
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »
Wood risers in the future?  The metal risers are as ugly as the limbs, IMHO.

I've previously owned a Bill Stewart MCD T/D recurve.  It, however, was too short, 56", and too heavy in draw weight, 53#@28", for me.

I presently own a very early Stewart MCD that he built for a target shooter in CA.  It is 68", has rear mounted limbs and has a beautiful Brazilian Rosewood riser.  The pic(s) below don't reflect it, but the riser is actually a deep dark brown like typical Brazilian Rosewood.

 

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2010, 10:44:00 AM »
You can order a wood riser Bill in the back mount. Exotic wood with carbon strip reinforcement.
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2010, 11:32:00 AM »
a 35#er that likes 400's with 200 gr tips? and shoots 204, was that with that arrow or something else? total arrow wgt?

Ya got me intrigued  :D

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2010, 02:49:00 PM »
I would think that this bow would have great appeal to former compound shooters, or compound shooters who are thinking or trying something a little more traditional, for the following reasons; it produces fast arrow flight for it's very light draw weight, the materials require little of no care, it could be shot just seasonally because it would require very little strength development as more common longbows and recurves do, and men a woman could share the same bow.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2010, 02:55:00 PM »
Not sure about the bow Dave, but your release looks rock solid.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2010, 03:06:00 PM »
It is awesome that Arvid is always tinkering and looking for something better, no wonder why he builds such awesome bows. Take care there David.

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2010, 03:24:00 PM »
It is very unique.  In the second photo of shooting the limbs seem to have the vibration in the middle part.  Maybe that portion is just moving faster than the tip.  Did it give you more handshock?

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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2010, 04:01:00 PM »
No hand-shock. Very dead on the release. The bow is 204 at AMO (30" 9gpp). I don't know what the speed was with my arrows, they are just what shot well for me with it. I needed pretty long arrows for my draw.
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Re: Kinky Black Swan FULL DRAW PIC ADDED
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2010, 06:08:00 PM »
Thanks for the answer.  Definately love to hear the update on teh 45# one in the future.

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