M60gunner,it was great shooting with you guys too, the weatlh of knowledge i recieved was priceless. I will definately be back i sent in my application yesterday so y'all should have it soon, i love that range. the hills where just fine, i seem to break down mentally before i do physically, i need to work on keeping my concentration up. I had the same problem years ago when learing to play baseball, my dad would say "quite thinking and just do it your brain gets you into to much trouble"