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Author Topic: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp  (Read 749 times)

Online lpcjon2

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it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« on: January 27, 2010, 08:48:00 PM »
Ok,it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp.Give me some ideas as to what types of material I should use to do this.I'm not talking about splitting bone,I'm talking what gives the best opening ragged or razor sharp cut.I will make up some ballistic gel,maybe do pumpkins,and I will clean out some pumpkins and fill with red water to see the drainage.what do you think?   :archer:
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Offline Al Natural

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 09:06:00 PM »
Hog carcass. When your done have a roast.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »
Why not go to a butcher shop and buy a chunk of meat past its due date. A inside or outside round would do nicely. Probably cheaper than ballistic gel. And you get to BBQ when your done!

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 10:05:00 PM »
I think you're going to find out what a broadhead does to a pumpkin filled with red water or a slab of ballistic gel and it isn't going to tell you anything about what the same head will do on a living, breathing, moving animal.   :)
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 10:06:00 PM »
Thats why all Ideas are welcome.Whats your's
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 10:08:00 PM »
Hunt!
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 10:12:00 PM »
that we do but the recent topic it which gets better blood trails,and wound openning that bleed more.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 10:19:00 PM »
Take a broadhead with a file/rough edge and run it across your finger.

Take a scary sharp Silver Flame and run it across your finger (just be ready to go to a Dr.)    :biglaugh:    

Experiment complete.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 10:40:00 PM »
What he said ( KSdan ).
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 11:00:00 PM »
There's just too many variables to answer that question with a test.  Broadheads have different steels and some seem to hold a filed edge better than a honed edge. That don't mean it's better, that just means its better for that steel. The longer a head stays sharp, the more it cuts, the more it bleeds. Fact is there is such a thing as "sharp enough" and that's where most folks settle.  It's far easier to get a "sharp enough" filed edge than it is to get a "sharp enough" honed edge.  A properly honed edge will always bleed more, penetrate deeper, and bleed faster provided the steel is capable of holding that edge.  The amount of blood on the ground has little to do with how fast the animal bled out and much more to do with what was cut and where the entry and exit are.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 11:29:00 PM »
I do a lot of blade sharpening, bH's and knives, have did several for forum members. I have read, and have had several Doctors that are friends tell me, that a seratted or rough edge, tears up the edges of veins, arteries when passing throug, displaces the tissue of them, that they cant seal off as easy as those cut with a razor sharp. This is in muscle tissue and internal organs. I have shot animals with heads sharpened both ways, got about the same result, but did seem to get better bloodtrails with rough edges that were" good enough". This is the theory behind the Magnus Stinger Buzzcut and the older Kolpin Terminator serrated edge broadheads that came out in the 1980's. My brother in law killed a bunch of deer with those and a wheelie bow.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 11:35:00 PM »
yes sir file sharp are prefered by some ,, I know some people that use belt sanders to sharpen Broadheads and they get good results so each to there own I like to file then hone my Broadheads ,,
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 11:41:00 PM »
I have found that pumpkins generally drop in sight, so the blood trail isn't all that critical.    :rolleyes:
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 12:24:00 AM »
I've done this test several times,I use live critters,they work quite well.

A bleeding pumpkin would still be cool to see though,,do that an post the pic's.
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 12:30:00 AM »
I posted some info on live animal results when sticking in the thread your refering to Ipcjon2.

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 01:16:00 AM »
Just how do you suppose you're going to judge this?  Sounds like fun, but meaningless.

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 02:17:00 AM »
As I stalked up on the bighorn; the ground gave way; and my arrows spilled out from my back quiver and slid down the rock slide.

 I collected them up; and they were all too dull to shoot.

 Then I looked up; and the bighorn was headed my way!

 I reached into my pack and pulled out my belt sander; hoping the generator would not alert the ram:  until I was done sharpening....

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 05:19:00 AM »
A dead cow  :)
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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2010, 07:15:00 AM »
I use a square with a handle that was 5x5 with rubberbands all around it and pushed a broadhead through it away from yourself and watched if the rubberbands rolled over the blade or the rubberbands were cut. It looks like a letter "p".

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Re: it's time for a test of broad head sharp vs razor sharp
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2010, 07:31:00 AM »
Like someone said a scalpel sharp head will leave a fine cut that easily heals.. It also does not alert the nervous system which causes the blood to clot and quit flowing..
Case in point.. nick yourself shaving and it bleeds profusely but heals quickly.
Cut your self with a dull knife, the cut is many times deeper, larger etc, but bleeds little in comparison, and can be a booger to get healed up, and generally leaves a visible scar while the razor cut does not.
I vote for the razor sharp.
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