I never have had problems in oh, about 50 years of shooting arrows, getting arrows to fly. I've always kept it real simple, have never bare shafted or paper tuned, or any of the other techy stuff some guys are so into (not that there's anything wrong with that if that floats your boat). It sometimes seems to me that we are needlessly complicating something that is essentially very simple Could it be a hold-over from compound days? Indeed, if performance is the main aim, if we could somehow just put some cams or wheelie things out on the limb tips, I bet we could even get more speed.....oh, wait, I think somebody named Allen already did that, didn't he? :rolleyes: