Years back, right around when mechanical heads were all the rage, two guys got into archery the usual way, they bought cheap compounds, mechanical releases, light weight carbon arrows and mechanical heads. They each wounded a deer with very little penetration their first year. Somehow they went to a shoot where Lamont had his booth. They bought a dozen 140 grain Hills, and had the brochure that Craig included, they followed the instructions given. They both blew through their deer the following season and declared that as hard as it was to believe, they felt that they had discovered the deadliest head ever produced. Someone sent them over to my house and I introduced them to the rest of the Hill story. They bought longbows. I thought this will be great, I have a couple of very adventurous young guys to shoot and hunt with. After only one year of sharpening their longbow skills in northwest Iowa, they moved west, I have never heard from them again.